Simon..you are a life saver, I downloaded the Super Anti Spyware as you recommended as a last resort, as I was going to send computer to my brother in N.J. to fix it. And it worked, got up at 3:15 am to check on it , finished out the process and when computer rebooted, it was fixed. I thank you so much. You guys on this site have helped me several times in the past with good results..thanks again