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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2003, 14:34 »
Why dont you install that new 2003 server prog you got Tony then you can give it a whirl  ;)

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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2003, 14:49 »
oh THAT, I forgot about that ;) I would have to make a partition for it, right? I may do that :-* :-*
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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2003, 15:12 »
For anyone confused about "Mirroring/Striping and Ghosting" like me  ::)
I have asked a question here :

http://pc-pals.com/index.php?board=50;action=display;threadid=5286

Which hopefully will explain the pros and cons and whys and hows in the near future once either Adept or Lobo or anyone else knowledgeable in such things gets a chance to answer it  :-*

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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2003, 15:13 »

"Well Adept, I have the 'Disk Management' gubbins on my PC so I'm inclined to think mirroring is possible, erst will why would these help files be on my PC?
To add a mirror to an existing simple volume

"If you don't have a dynamic disk with enough unallocated space, the Add Mirror command is unavailable"


I take it that you have a dynamic disk with enough unallocated space then Tony?

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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2003, 16:46 »


"Well Adept, I have the 'Disk Management' gubbins on my PC so I'm inclined to think mirroring is possible, erst will why would these help files be on my PC?
To add a mirror to an existing simple volume

"If you don't have a dynamic disk with enough unallocated space, the Add Mirror command is unavailable"


I take it that you have a dynamic disk with enough unallocated space then Tony?

Brian  ???


So are you saying, if I did have a dynamic disk with enough unallocated space, I could do it with W2K Pro?

I'm going of mirroring actualy, because if I suffer a virus attack or such like both mirrored Disk get it. Plan B is taking my fancy right now  :)

But staying on the mirroring debate, if I made Disk 0 30GB and Disk 1 is 30GB unallocated, or swapped em around even, could I then not make Disk 1 dynamic through disk Management, what Adept was saying at the beginning of the thread. Or I'm I just being silly here.  ;D

I'm doing now't till I have enough CD's to back it all up, Drive Image just keeps throwing up an error boxes 1603 and 1706. I suppose I best read up about Norton Ghost.

But I've assembled a nice chest of draws today  ;D
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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2003, 17:00 »
@Tony
Iwas going to refer you to this post http://pc-pals.com/index.php?board=50;action=display;threadid=5286 but I see that you have allready been there

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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2003, 13:58 »
Well as you know I was having trouble with error messages when I tried to use Partition Magic/Ghost or Drive Image. I suspected it was because GoBack was enabled. Unfortunately every time those aforementioned programs attempted to run, I had to abort them, and my PC hung. I got out of this problem by reverting my drive back to how it was prior to attempting to use those programs [using Goback ]  So I was uneasy at the prospect of disabling GoBack , only to find it did not solve my probs with those programs, and I could not revert back.

So I installed W2K and all my security programs on my new drive and attempted to use PM and DI and they worked fine, installed GoBack and the error messages returned. Anyway that solved I practiced using PM and DI on that HDD before doing it on my HDD with its data on. After you have finished making changes with partition management software you can enable GoBack again. Must admit right on the last page of PM PDF docs, it said Goback had to be unabled when using Partition Magic  ::)
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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2003, 14:35 »
See Tony,you are never too old to learn  :P

Glad you sorted  :)

Could this be a first  ??? A man who actually reads a "How to do things" manual  ::)

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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2003, 14:43 »
Oh we read em, but like the case in question I read it after I had sorted it  ;D
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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2003, 14:48 »
Anyway it is all sorted now,

I made both my existing and new HDD?s  ?Cable Select? using the jumper settings.

Firstly on the ?live? 40GB Disk 0, I used Partition Magic to add another 10GB logical partition G: on which to store backup images. I then resized partitions C: and D:  on the remaining 30GB.  Then used Drive Image to make an image of C: and D: drives and stored it on G: drive. [ the image took about an hour to do]

Then with the 40GB HDD still in Disk 0 position [cable wise] I copied the image onto Disk 1 the 30GB drive. Now with error checking and write verifing enabled  it took about four hours in total for about 9.5 GB content., it did it while I slept over night.

So because the 30GB HDD was in the Disk 1 position, the Primary boot partition become  H: and the logical partition was I:  Then when I swopped  the HDD?s around so that the 30GB became Disk 0 and thous the active bootable drive,  and the 40GB with the backup partition G:  becoming in effect the slave HDD due to 'Cable Select' And with this the two corresponding drives on both HDD?s  C: D: and H: I: swopped over, so in effect I'm always booting off C: Drive.

So now in the rare but likely event of the active bootable drive failing, I can be up and running with the 40GB HDD.

Brian and Adept,

I was tempted to try dynamic disking to mirror the drives. But I thought no, better to wait till I have enough CD's to make a remote copy  ::) But if I was a betting man, I reckon you can mirror with W2K Pro  ;)
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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2003, 14:52 »
Bet you cant Tony  :P

By the way I am glad that you noticed that the drive letters changed the way that I said they would  ;)

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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2003, 15:05 »
Ha ha Sandra,

not quite correct

I refer you to PDF docs Partition Magic page 21 [I think ]  ;)

Explain logical drive G: being before Primary boot partiion H: and first logical drive I: on the same HHD when G: is the last Logical partion on tha HDD !!!!

W2K drive letter assignment is different to Win 95/98 drive letter assignment. C: and D: merely changed places with H: and I: because I changed the HDD's around phyisicaly via the cable structure. :-*

Mirroring!!! bet I can  ;)
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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2003, 15:21 »
Sooorrie page 20,

Windows NT/2000

quote: Once assigned however these drive letters do not change, regardless of changes to the hard disks or partitions in your system. The drive letters are 'sticky' so to speak, and reamian permanently assigned to the same partition. End quote

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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2003, 15:24 »
Not fair  :'(
You have the advantage of actually using 2K,I havent used that just 98SE and XP and in those windows versions the drive letters move with a mind of their own at times  ;D

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Re:Installing additional HDD
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2003, 15:28 »
"But if I was a betting man, I reckon you can mirror with W2K Pro"

You loose ;D

Its a server funtion

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