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Offline daveeb

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Re:ntl:freedom
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2003, 20:57 »
you could try asking on www.nthellworld.com
 they're very good, you quite often get customer services/technicians on who can give definitive answers.   ;)

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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2003, 07:54 »
Thanks Dave I'll have a look there too, good website address isn't it lol.

The number I need starts 012630800****00   Thats long isn't it ?

The other number still doesn't go through.

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2003, 15:22 »
just had a look michelle, theres a big thread on this very topic.  bad news is that a) it looks like your stuck as they wont release the number

b) this link probably wont work

http://www.nthellworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47396&page=1&pp=15

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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2003, 15:59 »
Thanks dave, that is the thread I've been looking at waiting for someone to come up with something, as you say as yet it doesn't seem possible to get the number.

Grrrrr  >:(
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Re:ntl:freedom
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2003, 16:12 »
Knowing computers as I do, Windows makes a log of absolutely every single activity which takes place on your computer.  I'm sure that there just HAS to be a log recording that phone number buried somewhere amongst your files.  Over to the experts...

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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2003, 16:17 »
Thats what I thought clive, it must be somewhere ....... because it has rung it. There has to be a way of getting to it, but not through ntl.   I'm sure someone will find it, as no one I've read about wants to use the ntl dialer, I'm not so bothered about that, I just want to connect quicker than 10mins, cos sometimes I only pop on for 10mins  :o  (okay it might only take 5mins but it seems a hell of a long time)  ::)

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Re:ntl:freedom
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2003, 16:27 »
Michelle does it show the number in your dial up but as all * ?
There are some programmes that wil find passwords from that type of thing but I dont know if they would uncover the number.
Maybe Adept, Dack or Lobo will know if they will  :)

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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2003, 16:40 »
On the ntl dialer it shows as 012630800****00

but I can't find it anywhere else.
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2003, 17:55 »
Hmm.  Seems as if the NTL dialup number is more elusive than Saddam's WMDs.

Michelle, here's  another forum thread to watch:

http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/f10.html

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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2003, 19:10 »
Thanks other dave, I've been looking in there too.

Grrrr they really don't want you to know about it do they.  Odd!! I don't know why cos with the last one they told you how to make a new connection if you didn't want to use their dialer.

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Re:ntl:freedom
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2003, 21:06 »
Well you could give this a go - not sure if it works though as I don't use dialup anymore.

Go into your control panel and select modems.

Select the modem and click properties.

Somewhere in there you will see a setting which says "Add to Log" - tick it on (the correct bit is different on each version of windows).

close down all the settings windows.

Connect to Ntl.

Browse the Internet for a bit.

Exit NTL.

Go back into the co trol panel and modems and have a look at the log (its one of the options). You will then see a line like ATDxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

The xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx bit is the number you need to dial.

You will also probably want to switch logging off again while you are in here.

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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2003, 21:52 »
Right - knowing that you run ME.

Its Control panel -> modems -> properties->connection -> advanced
Then click on the 'Add to log'

Later on its....
Control panel -> modems -> properties->connection -> advanced
"View Log"

The ATD bit of the above posting is the same.
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Re:ntl:freedom
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2003, 07:57 »
Thanks Dack, I don't have "add to log" but I have "append to log" so I ticked that .... And its still the same it doesn't show the number only.


0-09-2003 07:51:10.11 - Send: ATDT###################<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:35.62 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MCR: V90<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:35.62 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:51:35.62 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MRR: 45333<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:35.62 - Interpreted response: Informative
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Re:ntl:freedom
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2003, 07:59 »
This is the whole of it, if it helps .............. see all that just to connect lol

10-09-2003 07:27:07.64 - Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M) in use.
10-09-2003 07:27:07.64 - Modem type: Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M)
10-09-2003 07:27:07.64 - Modem inf path: D215DTM.INF
10-09-2003 07:27:07.64 - Modem inf section: HSFModem1
10-09-2003 07:27:07.72 - 115200,N,8,1
10-09-2003 07:27:07.72 - 115200,N,8,1
10-09-2003 07:27:07.72 - Initializing modem.
10-09-2003 07:27:07.72 - Send: AT<cr>
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Recv: AT<cr>
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Send: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W0<cr>
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Recv: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W0<cr>
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Send: ATS7=60M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;+IFC=2,2;X4<cr>
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Dialing.
10-09-2003 07:27:07.73 - Send: ATDT;<cr>
10-09-2003 07:27:09.01 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:09.01 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:27:09.01 - Dialing.
10-09-2003 07:27:09.01 - Send: ATDT###################<cr>
10-09-2003 07:27:33.96 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MCR: V90<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:33.96 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:27:33.96 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MRR: 44000<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:33.96 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Recv: <cr><lf>+ER: LAPM<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Recv: <cr><lf>+DR: V42B<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Recv: <cr><lf>CONNECT 115200<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Interpreted response: Connect
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Connection established at 44000bps.
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Error-control on.
10-09-2003 07:27:34.48 - Data compression on.
10-09-2003 07:49:55.08 - Hanging up the modem.
10-09-2003 07:49:55.08 - Hardware hangup by lowering DTR.
10-09-2003 07:49:55.22 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:49:55.22 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:49:55.22 - Send: ATH<cr>
10-09-2003 07:49:55.22 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:49:55.22 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:49:55.22 - 115200,N,8,1
10-09-2003 07:49:56.32 - Session Statistics:
10-09-2003 07:49:56.32 -                Reads : 445061 bytes
10-09-2003 07:49:56.32 -                Writes: 153257 bytes
10-09-2003 07:49:56.32 - Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M) closed.
10-09-2003 07:50:03.66 - Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M) in use.
10-09-2003 07:50:03.66 - Modem type: Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M)
10-09-2003 07:50:03.66 - Modem inf path: D215DTM.INF
10-09-2003 07:50:03.66 - Modem inf section: HSFModem1
10-09-2003 07:50:03.74 - 115200,N,8,1
10-09-2003 07:50:03.74 - 115200,N,8,1
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Initializing modem.
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Send: AT<cr>
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Recv: AT<cr>
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Send: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W0<cr>
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Recv: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W0<cr>
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Send: ATS7=60M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;+IFC=2,2;X4<cr>
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Dialing.
10-09-2003 07:50:03.75 - Send: ATDT;<cr>
10-09-2003 07:50:05.02 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:50:05.02 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:50:05.02 - Dialing.
10-09-2003 07:50:05.02 - Send: ATDT###############<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:07.67 - Recv: <cr><lf>NO CARRIER<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:07.67 - Interpreted response: No Carrier
10-09-2003 07:51:07.68 - Hanging up the modem.
10-09-2003 07:51:07.68 - Send: ATH<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:07.68 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:07.68 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:51:07.68 - 115200,N,8,1
10-09-2003 07:51:08.70 - Session Statistics:
10-09-2003 07:51:08.70 -                Reads : 86 bytes
10-09-2003 07:51:08.70 -                Writes: 109 bytes
10-09-2003 07:51:08.70 - Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M) closed.
10-09-2003 07:51:08.72 - Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M) in use.
10-09-2003 07:51:08.72 - Modem type: Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem(M)
10-09-2003 07:51:08.72 - Modem inf path: D215DTM.INF
10-09-2003 07:51:08.72 - Modem inf section: HSFModem1
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - 115200,N,8,1
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - 115200,N,8,1
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Initializing modem.
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Send: AT<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Recv: AT<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Send: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W0<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Recv: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W0<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Send: ATS7=60M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;+IFC=2,2;X4<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Dialing.
10-09-2003 07:51:08.82 - Send: ATDT;<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:10.11 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:10.11 - Interpreted response: Ok
10-09-2003 07:51:10.11 - Dialing.
10-09-2003 07:51:10.11 - Send: ATDT###################<cr>
10-09-2003 07:51:35.62 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MCR: V90<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:35.62 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:51:35.62 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MRR: 45333<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:35.62 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Recv: <cr><lf>+ER: LAPM<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Recv: <cr><lf>+DR: V42B<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Interpreted response: Informative
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Recv: <cr><lf>CONNECT 115200<cr><lf>
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Interpreted response: Connect
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Connection established at 45333bps.
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Error-control on.
10-09-2003 07:51:36.17 - Data compression on.
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Offline Dack

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Re:ntl:freedom
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2003, 09:05 »
I wnder why they bother trying to hide such info :)

OK lets use another 'trick'.

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/portmon.shtml

Download and run this. Switch on the logging for whatever port your modem is using. Try and connect to the internet.Then post the log here.

I'll tell you now that it may interfere with your internet connection so you will probably want to remove it after doing the capture.
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