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Technical Help & Discussion => Self Building, Upgrading & General Hardware Help => Topic started by: twiggy on January 31, 2005, 21:56
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Well finaly got my stuff and went to make the upgrade to 3000+ 64bit processor. Set all me comp up ect and turned on set bios up no probs hen come to load windows and boom 'blue screen of death' (good old microsoft hey) Guessing the problem is of course new mobo n processor need to re-install microsoft from scrath. But when talking to my uncle he said he got new mobo n processor from 2500 to 3200 (not 64 just 32bit) and he fort it would just need a re-intall, well he did that and still blue screen same point all the time as i'm getting it ??? so anyone got any ideas? Worth whiping me disc and losing everything or dos someone no whats going on ???
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any one got any other ideas?
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Sorry Mark, we're a bit short of techies at this moment, but hopefully someone will come back to you on this. :-[
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Not sure if this is both your problems or not Mark, but XP doesnt always allow you to change a major component such as a CPU.
It thinks you are cloning a drive from one pc and using the same version of XP on a second or third pc to save you buying another copy of XP.
Tony did find the way around this but I havent got the time to find his post about it at the moment, but to use his method you would have to have the hard drive in the original pc setup so that you could add a file to the registry which includes the info to allow it to run in a differently equipped pc :(
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Well ok thanks I will just whipe it and start from fresh and hope :)
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I could be wrong here, but I believe that Windows XP will allow you to change a major component, following a given period after activating XP. I think that given period is 6 months.
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Just about to whipe comp and just had a fort dos SP1 support 64bit? Or dos it have to be SP2?
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Like Sandra said, there is a file called "mergeide" see This (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5BLN%5D;Q314082) link.
Now Microsoft don't like this work around, because it allows you to use one XP OS on more than one PC. But I dare say they had to offer the fix for Mobo and such like failure reasons. Imagine your in business and you have a Modo or CPU failure. And you need that PC and its data up and running fast. Well, by adding said file to the registary, you can whip the hard drive containing the XP OS out of the faulty machine and install it into any another PC with a different MOBO, CPU, memory or whatever, and it will boot up as normal.
So if you still have the old MOBO/CPU kicking about, you could connect it back up. Boot it up and add the file as instructed, after copying it to a floppy from that MS linked page. Then pop the hard drive back into the new upgrade setup.
PS: Dont be put of by the wording on that Microsoft page,it ain't complicated. All you need to do is scroll to the bottom of that page,and copy past that file to a floppy, thats all you need to do. Installing it is easy, you just click "OK" when it asks if you wish to install it...job done. OK you will have to add the driveres for your new MOBO, but they will be on the Mobo driver disk, so thats no hardship.
I add that file to all XP installs, and I have never had problems swopping said installs from one PC to another. I can Zip and email it if you have problems, just PM me, its only 7kb in size.
Hope it helps.
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oh an aside:
64bit computing is the future and if you dont know micro$oft are releasing a specific 64bit version of xp. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx
but then there is also suse (http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/downloads/suse_linux/), fedora, debian and mandrake (what i use) ahead of the list..
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Its ok folks dont matter got it all installed jsut did a complete re-install. Running at 1.81ghz :S which is a step back form my athlon 2400+ (2ghz). Anyone no why this is? Yes it says its 3000+ so no under clocking going on.
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The name of an AMD cpu is never the speed in hz that the cpu runs at, unlike Intel for some reason.
I think that AMD like to think that their lower hz cpus perform the same as that speed of an Intel cpu ::)
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amd cpus do out perform intels.. i wish i had one of those in my machine and not my p4.
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Twiggy
Try This (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) link to show exactly whats going on with your CPU? gives loads of info mate.
I used this when I had the same problem with my new CPU & board, found out it was a setting in the bios that you could change (not over clocking)as my 2500 barton was only running at 1.2Ghz changed the setting in bios and now runs at 1.8ghz, hope this helps.
Terry
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Yeh i no the name of the chip aint the ghz rating with amd, just wounderrin if the rating was rite for my ship as it seemed a huge step backwards for the price i paid.
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o well seems to be running as they suggest ???
might as well stick my athlon 2400 back in later
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Mark,
read this http://tinyurl.com/43824 article to better understand why 64 bit is the way forward. And another http://tinyurl.com/6ja5d