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Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Reno on June 25, 2005, 22:32
When I buy a DVD nowadays I like to ensure the years of enjoyment I would expect when investing my hard-earned money into a movie by backing up that movie. So i backup my DVDs using a freeware tool called DVD Decrypter in combination with Nero.

I?m not so sure this is the easiest or best way to get this job done. So I put the question to the experts at PC-pals. What, in yalls opinion, is the best way to backup one's DVD investments? What application or combination of applications do yall find best suited for performing this once complicated task?
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Simon on June 25, 2005, 23:04
Well, we have to point out that even backing up your own DVDs is technically illegal, but as we are only suggesting available software, and have no responsibility for what the user does with it, have you tried DVD Fab, Bob?  Only thing is, it's not freeware, but can be found from the usual sources.  

:whistle:
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Sandra on June 25, 2005, 23:59
The latest version of DVD Shrink, (freeware), seems to handle the encryption as well as shrinking to fit a standard 4.7 gig DVD without the need of DVD Decrypter, I think it also has a burn now part that will use any burning prog you have as default  :)

As Delgado mentioned in another thread, DVD Santa seems to work quite well especially if converting and wanting to add two or more DVD films to a single DVD as does Uleads DVD Movie Factory Suite  :)
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: daveeb on June 26, 2005, 18:38
i agree with sandra, dvd shrink is excellent for backing up, authoring and compressing video.  i've not found anything it couldnt handle so i've never had to use dvd decrypter to date.   :D
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: daveeb on June 26, 2005, 18:42
Quote from: "Simon"
Well, we have to point out that even backing up your own DVDs is technically illegal, but as we are only suggesting available software, and have no responsibility for what the user does with it, have you tried DVD Fab, Bob?  Only thing is, it's not freeware, but can be found from the usual sources.  

:whistle:


obviously i'm only talking about home produced ones  :roll:
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Lona on June 26, 2005, 19:25
Quote from: "daveeb"
Quote from: "Simon"
Well, we have to point out that even backing up your own DVDs is technically illegal, but as we are only suggesting available software, and have no responsibility for what the user does with it, have you tried DVD Fab, Bob?  Only thing is, it's not freeware, but can be found from the usual sources.  

:whistle:


obviously i'm only talking about home produced ones  :roll:


I was lead to believe that you could make one copy for personal use as long as you had the legit copy and paid for it.  I know when I buy games it states that you are allowed to make one backup copy.
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Simon on June 26, 2005, 20:46
Quote from: "Simon"
Well, we have to point out that even backing up your own DVDs is technically illegal, but as we are only suggesting available software, and have no responsibility for what the user does with it, have you tried DVD Fab, Bob?  Only thing is, it's not freeware, but can be found from the usual sources.  

:whistle:

Quote from: "daveeb"
obviously i'm only talking about home produced ones  :roll:

Of course, Dave!   :wink:

Quote from: "Lona"
I was lead to believe that you could make one copy for personal use as long as you had the legit copy and paid for it.  I know when I buy games it states that you are allowed to make one backup copy.

You almost certainly couldn't get into trouble for that, Lona, although I'm not sure that even that is 'legal'.  They don't exactly advise it on the packaging.   :)  

As I said, we only advise on which software might be available.  We have no control over how it could be used.   :wink:
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Lona on June 27, 2005, 01:01
I have a pc game from eidos and it states on the instructions that you are allowed to make one backup copy for personal use.
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: sam on June 27, 2005, 19:24
yes some do state that...though you will have a bitch "backing up" most games as they are running with more and complex security devices...though there is always 'www.gamecopyworld.com' (for backups only, note: pc-pals.com is in no way affiliated or responsible for the content on this site)
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Reno on June 28, 2005, 05:13
Damn these lawyers, look what they've turned sam into. If i didn't know any better i would have thought our once fearless sam was afraid of posting a link. What is the EU coming to. :rumad:
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Simon on June 28, 2005, 08:05
Quote from: "Bobscrachy"
Damn these lawyers, look what they've turned sam into. If i didn't know any better i would have thought our once fearless sam was afraid of posting a link. What is the EU coming to. :rumad:

Sam did post the link, and I disabled it, Bob.  You can still visit the site by manually pasting the link into your browser.  We just have to be a bit careful.  Bear in mind, this time last year, this thread wouldn't have been allowed at all.  :)
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Clive on June 28, 2005, 08:14
Only goes to show that given enough time, even PC-Pals can eventually crawl into the real world!   :lol:
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Reno on June 28, 2005, 14:35
Over here in the states, the knowledge to find illegals isn't illegal. It's the actual illegal things that the gov normally brings sites down and throw people in jail for.
Title: Re: DvD backing up
Post by: TR on June 28, 2005, 18:36
Quote from: "Bobscrachy"
When I buy a DVD nowadays I like to ensure the years of enjoyment I would expect when investing my hard-earned money into a movie by backing up that movie. So i backup my DVDs using a freeware tool called DVD Decrypter in combination with Nero.

I?m not so sure this is the easiest or best way to get this job done. So I put the question to the experts at PC-pals. What, in yalls opinion, is the best way to backup one's DVD investments? What application or combination of applications do yall find best suited for performing this once complicated task?


Bob

You only need  tools to back up your DVDs.

1, DVD Decrypter.
2, DVD Shrink.
3, DVD43. Free issue not the pay 1  DVD43 here (http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd43.cfm)
4, Nero
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: sam on June 28, 2005, 23:27
i totally agree with simon disabling the link...i was thinking of making it just text in the first place.

This site is legit and though the software they tell you about can be used for illegal activities it is advocated for backup stuff - something I personally do.. I dont want to have to rebuy my favourite game when its scratched to f***.

Oh and as for posting information that contains illegal material - I believe a site was shut recently for posting links to torrents. Whats the difference between this and software. End of the day it is our necks on the line. Sorry to say this but we have to be careful. Maybe all information should be free, damn I advocate that but someone put the time and effort in to making it - maybe you should pay? Either way I dont want to get involved in a long conversation on this matter, it is something that we would never come up with a conclusion to.

Oh and the EU has nothing to do with this, I believe in fact that more american sites have been shut they EU sites for content relating to illegal activites. End of the day if someone really wants to share content with another about these sort of things then there is always PM! :-)
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Lona on June 28, 2005, 23:38
All this ballyhoo about copying cds, why was it nobody bothered when we used to copy all our friends LPs onto Cassettes and vice versa.????

I didn't see anybody being put in jail for illegal copying of music onto cassette.
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Simon on June 28, 2005, 23:47
Quote from: "Lona"
All this ballyhoo about copying cds, why was it nobody bothered when we used to copy all our friends LPs onto Cassettes and vice versa.????

I didn't see anybody being put in jail for illegal copying of music onto cassette.

You're quite right, Lona - oh, for the good old days!  Unfortunately, times change, and not always for the better.  ;)
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Lona on June 29, 2005, 00:08
I've got loads of cassettes.  I wonder if I would get in trouble if I copied them all and sold them on ebay.  :D  :D  :D
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: joudi on June 29, 2005, 00:20
Personally, I allow myself to copy and to download. Not in a purpose of selling to others and get profits, no!

I do that just because I know that I have paid thousands of French francs (hundreds of dollars) for audio CD's.

My income was very limited then. I had to pay more than 15 or 20 dollars just to buy a simple audio CD.     :shock:

I think that they got too much money of a limited resources guy like me. They are already rich, and they are massacring people more and more by imposing prices beyond logic.     :(

They can (if they want) fix more realistic prices for their products to help people not to search illegal ways to get them. But when they ask toooooo much money, I think, it?s them who are causing the illegal reaction.     :roll:
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: Sandra on June 29, 2005, 00:33
Well said Joudi.
In fact its even worse here in the UK as CDs and DVDs, and almost everything else that people buy, seem to cost us even more here than in the rest of europe and america.

It shows how much they wanted to be able to rip us off in the UK by making DVDs regional so even if we bought the cheaper american region 1 DVDs we couldnt easily play them in the UK.

Fortunately most DVD players can now play all regions so it may not be too many years before they drop the regions and make them all the same and hopefully charge everyone a fairer price  :roll:
Title: DvD backing up
Post by: joudi on June 29, 2005, 01:06
Just think a while:

What actors and singers are doing as a harder job than those poor Africans (or others), who leave their needing family and children to come to work here in the west, submitted to « Modern Slavery » system?

Why that hard working African gets only ?Just what he needs to eat? as an income, while an actor gets millions of dollars just for one film?

What an actor is providing to humanity more than a poor and hard-working guy?

Is there any justice in that?

Isn't that a form of theft and cheating?

Plus, that industry (of theives), wants people to work and buy their product by none realistic price !      :tony: