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Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 18, 2006, 11:56
I'm trying to set up a static I.P Address for port forwarding for BitTornado using the link Lona supplied in another thread. (thankyou Lona)

I have gotten as far as taking down my I.P address and so one, when I came to the DNS server I noticed there are two. Ending in 35, and 36.
Is this Michaels as well? If not which one do I use? :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 18, 2006, 13:32
The IP address that you need to put in the router is the one relevant to the pc that you are wanting the ports opening on.

So you need to look in your Network Connections folder and highlight your LAN connection icon by single left clicking on it.
Then look at the bottom left of the folder under the Details part and it will show you the LAN IP address for that pc.
Those four groups of numbers are the ones that you need to enter.

The first 3 groups of numbers will be identical for your router, your pc and Michaels pc.
Only the last group of numbers will vary, that number is what identifies each connection.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 19, 2006, 10:36
Thanks Sandra,
                       When I got to entering the information, I noticed that when it says "Use the following DNS server addresses", it has preferred and alternate.
I assumed the two numbers that I wasn't sure about, that ended with 35, & 36
were preferred and alternate.
Well thats what I used anyway.

Next problem,
http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DSL-302G/BitTornado.htm

When I get to "Don't skip this step", entering your static I.P address.

When I type it into a browser page, it comes back can't find server or busy, I'm not getting to the box asking for user name and so on. :blush:

The I.P address that they use as an example 192.168.62.1, is that what they are suppose to look like as mine is more like 10.*.*.*
 :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: sam on September 19, 2006, 10:46
192.168... is a pretty default one, it doesnt matter really.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 19, 2006, 10:50
I cant see the bit about the DNS server where is that part ?
I wouldnt have thought that you needed it.

Re the Dont Skip this step part.
 
The enter Static IP should really say the IP address of your router.

They are usually in the 192.xxx.xxx.xx or 10.xxx.xxx.xx range so yours is one of the 10.xxx.xxx.xx ones.

To find your routers IP address you need to go to your Network Connections folder and double click on your LAN icon then click on the Support tab.

The IP address for the router is shown as the Default Gateway one.

The rest of it should work ok after that as long as you know the Admin username and password which should have come with the routers information or appears to be admin for both for your Dlink.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 19, 2006, 11:31
OK thanks, I got into the DLink system page, doesn't help that the one they show is of a 504G, ours is a 302G and doesn't have all that information.

I'm at the last one NAT Rule Add, I entered all the information and when I clicked submit it came up "501 Method Not Implemented"  tried it a couple of times same thing.  :?  :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 19, 2006, 11:55
It says its for the 302 G  :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 19, 2006, 12:24
I know :? , Where it says click on "Services", ours doesn't have that. So I just clicked on NAT, came up 501 Method Not Implemented, but after a couple of tries it worked.
But I'm still stuck at the end, it keeps coming up with the 501 message?

Any ideas :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 19, 2006, 12:40
Not really MB, without seeing what the options are  :(
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 19, 2006, 12:54
I googled it, and apparently I should have been doing this using IE.
Bugger!(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg480.imageshack.us%2Fimg480%2F1662%2Fdoh4jw.gif&hash=e7b77781eac31015bd09dd4a78cb613d8d49c8d8)

I guess I'll be doing this again using IE.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 19, 2006, 14:27
Seeming I would have to do it all again anyway, I decided to uninstall BitTornado and install UTorrent, as Michael has it and believes it's the easiest to use.

But I have a problem (how unusual), UTorrent assigns a port and I entered it, at the end on NAT Rule Configurations.
 http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DSL-302G/Utorrent.htm

And an Error page came up stating Error: Entry Already Exists.

Does this mean that, that port is already in use? If so should I change the port, if so how do I choose a port. :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 20, 2006, 00:52
I think it means that its already open so it should be working ok, hopefully.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 20, 2006, 08:11
You can change the listening (incoming) port in µTorrent in Options > Connections, and it's best to untick the Randomise Port box, so it uses the same one each time, otherwise you will keep having to open different ports on the router.  Try changing the port, if you keep getting the error message.  If the port is being forwarded correctly, you should have a green tick in the bar at the bottom of the µTorrent interface.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 20, 2006, 11:23
I figured out what the problem was, when the message says that it already exists, I figured it meant that NAT Rule 1 already exists, so I simply made it NAT Rule 2. Common sense really these silly computers. :laugh:

Anyway worked well at first, speeds up to 43kb, then down to nothing with a red warning sign. Didn't get a green tick, but a yellow warning sing at first.
Seeming that I only have one port open for it and it only seems to allow one, should I change the NAT Rule to a range of ports.
Say if I have 40000, make it 40000 to 40010. :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 20, 2006, 11:55
You can, as long as you open one of the ports in the range you have set in the Router, in µTorrent, and set the Router to allow TCP / UDP traffic for µTorrent through your LAN server IP address.  Bear in mind, though, the more ports you open, the more this may comprimise security, so really, if you are only using the one incoming port in µTorrent, there's only the need to open that one port in the Router.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 20, 2006, 12:19
So what you're saying is that it really only needs that one port open to work properly. And that's traffic in and out?

Why do I get the red warning sign?

If that's fine on my computer (using the USB connection), how does Michael set his UTorrent Port Forwarding up, (Ethernet connection) on our Modem.

I found a couple of sites on the DLink 302G and Port Forwarding, not very complimentary.

http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#Modems_routers_that_are_known_to_have_problems_with_P2P

http://forums.bitcomet.com/lofiversion/index.php?t935.html
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 20, 2006, 12:57
It should be eaxctly the same as you did for yours MB.
Just use the LAN IP address of his pc the same way as you used your LAN IP address in the router settings for the same ports.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 20, 2006, 13:35
OK Thanks Sandra, so he uses the same port that I'm using for UTorrent.

Also in UTorrents Options/Speed Guides - Test if Port is forwarded properly.

It comes up as Error Port doesn't appear to be open?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 20, 2006, 16:38
I hate to say this, but that could be down to Zone Alarm, Kate.  :|  I seem to recall having the same problem when I tried it myself.  You will need to open the port in that as well.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 22, 2006, 09:19
Good to know my firewall is working. :laugh:

One minor problem, how do I open a port in Zone Alarm. :?  :blush:
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 22, 2006, 09:47
From memory, I can't remember, but this should help, MB:-

http://www.firewalling.com/personalfirewalls/ZoneAlarmPro.htm

It might actually be worth looking in the progams list for µTorrent, then delete it, and next time you launch µTorrent, ZA should ask for permission, then say yes to all, and tick to remember the answer.  That should allow all ports µTorrent wants to use, rather than having to make special rules for specific ports.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 22, 2006, 10:33
Thanks Simon, but I don't have the Pro version, so no Options. :?

So I unticked permission, and then opened UTorrent and when it asked I ticked and said yes.
Went Ok for a while (yellow warning) then went to red warning again, so I Port Tested again, same thing. :(

And what does Banned (I.P Address) in Logger mean, and failed Hash Check doesn't sound good either. :? Lots of them. :shock:
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Lona on September 22, 2006, 14:13
I would think that if you have been downloading and not giving anything back your IP address could be getting banned.

I always leave my bt torrents running until I have given back the amount I have received.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 22, 2006, 18:34
Failed hash check is usually because you have opened the bit torrent client, and it is trying to upload something which is has been moved, or deleted, or was downloaded using different bit torrent software.   Not sure about the banned IP bit, but Lona could be right, and if so, the answer might be to ask your ISP for a dynamic IP, which changes each time you log on to the Internet.

In ZA, if you open the programs list, you should have 4 green ticks for the µTorrent entry, like the pic below (which isn't mine, just a random screenshot I pinched off the net).

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Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 23, 2006, 10:44
Thanks Lona, I had a feeling thats what it was.

How can I move files that I already have into UTorrent so I can share those.
I asked Michael a couple of days ago and he wasn't sure it was possible :?

Thanks Simon, I have 4 green ticks for UTorrent.
I'm only downloading one thing and it's only 205MB.

Is there a way seeing what ports I am using for everything?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 23, 2006, 10:51
To see your open ports do Start > Run then type 'cmd', (without the quotes) and click OK.  At the prompt, type 'netstat', and it should show a list of open ports.

You should be able to use the actual torrent file which initially launched the download, to import the torrent into µTorrent for seeding, but sometimes, different BT clients append a label to the torrent name, which would need to be removed before you could upload it again.  Not sure how easy that is to do, as I've never had to myself.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 23, 2006, 11:14
The port number I used for UTorrent isn't there, it doesn't go up to that number?
Should I try to port forward again and choose a port closer to the last number listed?

http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#Modems_routers_that_are_known_to_have_problems_with_P2P

Would our Modem have anything to do with this (302G).
And the DMZ game mode?
I have a lot of Failed Hash Check.
 :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 23, 2006, 11:26
I don't even know where that setting is in my router, but mine is in that list (DG834G), and I don't have any problems with torrents.  You have set µTorrent to stick to the one port, yes?  And you've forwarded that port through the router, and allowed it in the router firewall?  If you've done all that, and it's getting through ZA, I don't know what else to suggest.  There is a little program you could download, called TcpView (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/TcpView.html), which gives you more details as to what ports are open, and what applications are using them.  That may at least establish whether your µTorrent port is open.

By the way, the 'banned IP' message you got may only apply to that one download site.  Have you tried downloading something from somewhere else?

Oh, just one more thing, in µTorrent Options > Connections, untick Enable UPnP port mapping.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Lona on September 23, 2006, 13:03
Misty, why not scrap Utorrents and download this one........................

http://www.bittornado.com/
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 23, 2006, 13:25
Quote from: "mistybear"
Seeming I would have to do it all again anyway, I decided to uninstall BitTornado and install UTorrent, as Michael has it and believes it's the easiest to use. :?


Now Lona I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here that you haven't read all of this thread.
Or you're just trying to be funny. :laugh:
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 23, 2006, 13:31
I don't think it's µTorrent itself which is the problem.  Whatever client you use, you are still going to have to get it through ZA and your router.  As it seems to be enabled in ZA, it can really only be the router that's blocking it, MB, and I'm fairly sure it's all to do with this wretched port mapping.

Just an idea, but after you have opened the port, have you tried rebooting the router?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Lona on September 23, 2006, 13:42
Quote from: "mistybear"
Quote from: "mistybear"
Seeming I would have to do it all again anyway, I decided to uninstall BitTornado and install UTorrent, as Michael has it and believes it's the easiest to use. :?


Now Lona I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here that you haven't read all of this thread.
Or you're just trying to be funny. :laugh:


Sorry  Misty, didn't notice the part where you had bittornado.

As an exercise last night I installed Utorrents, tried to download a file and got nowhere with it.  Downloaded the same file using bittornado and it came down no problem.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 23, 2006, 13:44
The last thing in the port forwarding, it said something about Save and Reboot. I clicked on those but nothing seemed to happen.... Aaarrrrhhh.

OK maybe that's the problem.

I'll go back and do it again. But not tonight, it's past my bedtime.

Is that what you mean by Rebooting the Router?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 23, 2006, 13:51
Quote from: "Lona"
Sorry  Misty, didn't notice the part where you had bittornado.

As an exercise last night I installed Utorrents, tried to download a file and got nowhere with it.  Downloaded the same file using bittornado and it came down no problem.


I have the feeling that it is the Modem, as Michael has problems here, but when he is over a friends with his computer using their router he hasn't had a problem.
So as Simon says, excuse the pun, it wouldn't matter which one we use. :(
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Lona on September 23, 2006, 14:05
Another thing you could try is temporary disabling the router's built in firewall.

You should still be protected with ZA.

Personally I uninstalled ZA as it caused all sorts of problems with my downloads.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 23, 2006, 17:04
I don't know the characteristics of your router, Misty, but powering off and on again also acts as a reboot, if you can't find the actual reboot button, which will be somewhere in the settings.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 24, 2006, 00:11
If you select save settings and reboot then it should do it by itself and then say it has rebooted.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 24, 2006, 09:17
I've been doing some reading on the D-Link 302G.
It's basically a Modem with some characteristics of a Router, I actually have no idea what any of this means, I don't think it has a firewall, couldn't find it written anywhere that it has one.

Also the night I did the port forward Michael's computer was on, if he is on line using the Ethernet connection to the Modem, does that affect me port forwarding. So when I tried to Save and Reboot, was the reason it didn't was because of Michael's computer using the Modem as well?
If I do this again should Michael's computer be turned off?

And do we use the same ports seeming that we are both connected to the same Modem.
When I open a port in the Modem does Michael have access to it as well?

As you can see I really don't know how this works.

I still don't understand why I had to install Drivers and install the Modem for me to use the USB connection, when Michael just plugs his in to the Ethernet connection and of he goes?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 24, 2006, 09:41
Well, I know nothing about networking, so I can't help, sorry Misty.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 24, 2006, 11:00
I will try and answer your questions in the order that you put them MB.

The modem/router is it a router or not and has it a firewall part.

If it has port forwarding then it has a firewall so in that respect it should work like all the other routers as far as needing to assign the LAN IP of each pc thats connected to it to a port that you want opening for that pc.

Each pc should be able to work independantly of each other.
Michaels pc being on line shouldnt have affected it but it may have given you a message saying similar to this, that other pcs are connected and it will close their connection, when you tried to save settings and reboot.

You have to open the same port but for a different LAN IP for your pc and Michaels pc.
Think of it as a website such as Pals, you can both log on but you need a different username and password which identifies each of you.
The LAN IP is the same as a username and password in that scenario and the port number is the website.

The reason that you have to install drivers to connect by USB is that a USB device needs specific drivers for each device.
Ethernet is a different type of connection that works without drivers for that same device.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 24, 2006, 11:53
Thanks for that Sandra, it does make sense that if you have to open a port in it, than it has to have a firewall.

Michael has checked his, and it has the same problem, but he hasn't try to port forward yet.
I'll use the port number he has in his UTorrent and try again.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 24, 2006, 14:56
I have port forwarded again using the same port as Michaels and I did the same on his. No difference to either.
He also has a different Default Gateway to me, isn't that the Modem's address?
Also Michael has one extra connection in his internet connections.

Broadband Connection

  WAN miniport
      PPPOE

Do I do anything to this one?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Lona on September 24, 2006, 15:11
Have you read these FAQ, Misty.................


http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#Modems_routers_that_are_known_to_have_problems_with_P2P
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 24, 2006, 15:13
Both pcs should have the same gateway  :?

We had problems trying to sort out the pecularities of your setup before quite a long time ago if I remember correctly.

It does seem to be more complicated than most setups  :(

We really need someone whose got the same modem/router as you with a bit more networkin gexperience to sort this out I think  :(

We may have to wait until Gill finishes her IT and Networking course to be able to get around your problems  :)
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 24, 2006, 16:17
Not sure if it's the same thing, but there is an option to limit the number of global connections within µTorrent.  Options > Preferences > BitTorrent is the place to go, and you can also disable DHT from there, which might do something, but may also limit the amount of peers you can connect to, thus possibly slowing down your download speed.  Might be better than nothing though.  My Global maximum number of connections is set to 450, and mine works fine on a Netgear DG834G, which is actually one of the routers listed as 'troublesome'.  They suggest lowering to 200, or even 100, so might be worth trying that, Misty.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 25, 2006, 09:59
Quote from: "Lona"
Have you read these FAQ, Misty.................

http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#Modems_routers_that_are_known_to_have_problems_with_P2P


Quote

Quote from: mistybear
So what you're saying is that it really only needs that one port open to work properly. And that's traffic in and out?

Why do I get the red warning sign?

If that's fine on my computer (using the USB connection), how does Michael set his UTorrent Port Forwarding up, (Ethernet connection) on our Modem.

I found a couple of sites on the DLink 302G and Port Forwarding, not very complimentary.

http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#Modems_routers_that_are_known_to_have_problems_with_P2P

http://forums.bitcomet.com/lofiversion/index.php?t935.html


Quote
The port number I used for UTorrent isn't there, it doesn't go up to that number?
Should I try to port forward again and choose a port closer to the last number listed?

http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#Modems_routers_that_are_known_to_have_ problems_with_P2P

Would our Modem have anything to do with this (302G).
And the DMZ game mode?
I have a lot of Failed Hash Check.
Confused


I gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time Lona, now I'm starting to worry.(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.chefkoch.de%2Fimg%2Fsmileys%2Fbooze.gif&hash=e03cb2491c91ba73d4f7be1c42a8719ba396cd0c) :lol:
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 25, 2006, 10:10
What I might do is try posting this on another forum here in Aus. It's very techie and deals mainly in Networking.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki

Or I might start looking for a cheap Router that doesn't have all these problems. :(
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 25, 2006, 11:01
I might give this a shot.

http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/RouterConfiguration#D-Link_302G_ADSL_Modem

But before I do, how do I get rid of or more computer speak, delete, the Nat Rules I have already set?

Also last night when I set Michael's, he already had a Nat Rule 2, which had the Router address that is the same as mine?
Now I know you said Sandra that we should have the same Router address, but in his Internet Connections, his is different.
Michael tells me that the Nat Rule 2 is the one I set for my computer, now I'm really confused.  (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg116.exs.cx%2Fimg116%2F934%2Fz0tdntknw.gif&hash=88260d25ec2812f5752393251659076fed8af5ea)(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg40.imageshack.us%2Fimg40%2F3444%2Fcrazy1no.gif&hash=b8fe498ab4b5db824ad4dc4af9a67a04120843f4)
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 25, 2006, 11:39
Quote from: "mistybear"

Now I know you said Sandra that we should have the same Router address, but in his Internet Connections, his is different.
Michael tells me that the Nat Rule 2 is the one I set for my computer, now I'm really confused.  (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg116.exs.cx%2Fimg116%2F934%2Fz0tdntknw.gif&hash=88260d25ec2812f5752393251659076fed8af5ea)(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg40.imageshack.us%2Fimg40%2F3444%2Fcrazy1no.gif&hash=b8fe498ab4b5db824ad4dc4af9a67a04120843f4)


You should be able to delete or remove any NAT rules that you set.
If you cant find how to do it then resetting the router to its factory settings will do it but you will have to start over again with putting your ISP username and password in.

Are you sure that the gateway IP is different and not the LAN IP ?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 25, 2006, 13:14
I went back and checked. Run>cmd>ok>ipconfig/all>enter

Definately different :?

Also I came across one piece of advice for computers on a network.

The default ports are TCP 6881 - 6999. However, new clients such as
Azureus and BitComet only need one port forwarded to work. This might
help people whose modem/router does not support forwarding of port ranges.

If you have several people on your network wanting to use Bittorrent, just divide up and forward the ports. For example :
Person A ports 6881 - 6885
Person B ports 6886 - 6890

5 ports per person, that means you can download 5 files at one go.
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 25, 2006, 13:17
Quote from: "mistybear"
I went back and checked. Run>cmd>ok>ipconfig/all>enter

Definately different :?

 


I really cant understand that MB  :?
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Clive on September 26, 2006, 17:44
Is this the reason MB?



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Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on September 26, 2006, 17:52
Sandra, just a thought, but maybe if MB is connected by USB, this is just using the ADSL Modem part of the router, which may produce a different IP than the ethernet connection Michael is on?  :dunno:
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Lona on September 26, 2006, 18:05
Quote
I gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time Lona, now I'm starting to worry. lol


There's so many pages to this post, Misty it's hard to keep track.  I must have had a senior moment.  :wink:
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on September 27, 2006, 00:52
Wouldnt have thought that it would work like that Simon but stranger things have happened.

I would love to be at the pc to see whats actually going on.

How about everyone chips in a few hundred quid each to send me on a 4 to 6 week holiday out there so I can see what the problem is  :)
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: Clive on September 27, 2006, 08:34
:beach:
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 27, 2006, 08:56
Quote from: Clive
Is this the reason MB?

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I was wondering where she was. :laugh:
Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 27, 2006, 09:09
Quote from: "Lona"
Quote
I gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time Lona, now I'm starting to worry. lol

There's so many pages to this post, Misty it's hard to keep track.  I must have had a senior moment.  :wink:


It's OK Lona, I appreciate the help, I need all I can get. Plus you probably understand what it was about, it just leaves me

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Title: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on September 27, 2006, 09:25
Quote from: "Sandra"

I would love to be at the pc to see whats actually going on. :)


What are you trying to say Sandra.

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Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on November 16, 2006, 14:28
Sandra, just a thought, but maybe if MB is connected by USB, this is just using the ADSL Modem part of the router, which may produce a different IP than the ethernet connection Michael is on?  :dunno:

I just found this, explains the different addresses.

Default IP address      Eth - 10.1.1.1 USB - 10.1.1.2

http://whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=h_view&model_id=107
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on November 16, 2006, 14:29
Are you still having the same problem?
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on November 16, 2006, 14:47
Thats strange MB but now I have read the link I can partially understand it.

Its using a different IP to access the router but either connection should still be able to assig a different LAN IP to both yours and Michaels pcs.

The port forwarding should still refer to the individual LAN IP addresses of whichever pc wants to access a certain site, or program.
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on November 17, 2006, 08:05
Are you still having the same problem?

Unfortunately for Michael I am, I have something he wants and it's stuck on 98.5%. When I open it nothing happens, it's like it's frozen?
I haven't been using it for a while as I'm been busy sorting other things out, this was doing my head in so I decided to ignore it. We talked about getting another router as the aggravation wasn't worth it. But with the new memory and looking at getting a new graphics card and power supply, oh and of course a new fan. If I get them at the same place maybe I could ask them to throw in a free router.  :)

Sandra, I really don't understand how it works, maybe if I did I could sort this out myself. Michael had a friend over with his computer and they were connected by a router with Michael being connected to the internet via our modem/router, or the router was connected to the ethernet cable from this modem/router. ??? Anyway they were both connected to the internet, and I asked Michael how they did it as we couldn't, except for a smart arse reply about them being geniuses, they didn't tell me. >:(
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on November 17, 2006, 09:44
Without reading through the entire thread again, which I don't have time to do right at this minute, it might just be a question of getting another ethernet cable and a network card for your PC, so you can both connect to the router in the same way.  Alternatively, you could look at a wireless network card.  I'll read through the thread again later, and if this doesn't make sense, apologies in advance!  ;)
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on November 17, 2006, 11:43
There is no hurry on this Simon, I should probably reread it myself.(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg108.exs.cx%2Fimg108%2F5527%2Fi1lsmile.gif&hash=748ea984814a5cb4a7f0b1dab3b0b7111be86703)

Form factor: Desktop tower
CPU: Pentium 4, 3.4 GHz with HT Technology
CPU Type: 550
FSB: 800 MHz
Mainboard Chipset: Intel 915P
RAM: 512Mb PC3200 (400Mhz) DDR RAM Dual channel (Memory Controller Supports either DDR/DDR2)
Hard drive: 250Gb 7200 RPM SATA with a 8MB Cache
Optical 1: Dual Layer DVD RW. 16X DVD+/- R (Single layer) 4X DVD+R (Double Layer)
Optical 2: 16X DVD ROM
Audio: Intel High Definition onboard audio (8 audio channels, 192 kHz/32-bit quality)
Video: nVidia Geforce 6610XL PCI-Express x16 128Mb DDR-3
LAN: Onboard 10/100 Mbit Fast-Ethernet & Mini PCI 802.11g wireless LAN
Network Card, Sound Card
Modem: 56k V90 PCI soft modem
Connectivity: Bluetooth module
Multimedia: Stereo TV/FM tuner with remote control, Wireless keyboard and optical mouse

I seem to have a network card, just to refresh your memory, Michael and I have the same computer, except he know has 2x1GB memory, and I now have 4x256Mb. :)
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on November 17, 2006, 11:44
Its ony a 2 port router Simon, one ethernet and one USB, a strange beast.

You could use what is called a switch or even another router (non adsl modem included), which I think Michaels friend brought round.
That way theyd use the ethernet lead from your modem to his friends router and then an ethernet cable from that router to each pc.

Cable BB often works that way.

I think for ADSL though its usually better to have a proper all in one adsl modem 4 port router.

A standard 4 port ethernet router connected to your exising modem could be the cheapest solution for you now though seeing as you already have the modem.

The 10/100 LAN is your pcs ethernet connection MB.
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on November 17, 2006, 12:00
I thought that would have been the easiest solution as well Sandra.
Not sure if it's mentioned, but we did try it, with the same router, it's the one we borrowed to see if it would work, and we had problems with it. Can't remember why now, Michael better look after me when the dementia gets really bad.  :crazy:

Also if we have to spend money on this, I need to check to see if we are able to get ADSL 2 here, which would probably change what we need to buy.
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: mistybear on November 17, 2006, 12:50
After going back and reading some of this I realised there was one thing I didn't do, Simon suggested I run TCPView, which I have now done. One thing I noticed is that all the ports that are open have only 4 numbers and the port that I forwarded for UTorrent has 5 numbers? The port that was forwarded is a UDB and the other ports, which are about 20 for UTorrent are TCP ones.
Yes I know I should read up on this stuff to understand what it all means.
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: Sandra on November 17, 2006, 15:15
You should only need TCP ports open for torrents I think MB.

Oh and its UDP not UDB  ;)
Title: Re: Port forwarding.
Post by: Simon on November 17, 2006, 18:26
Torrents use a higher range of ports, that's the only reason it's 5 digits, MB.

Now I get it about the router.  As Sandra suggested, perhaps it might be worth considering investing in a multi-port router, so you can get it set up properly?  It seems you have the hardware in your PC to do this.