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Technical Help & Discussion => General Tech Discussion, News & Q&A => Topic started by: Clive on April 21, 2008, 22:23
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Intel posted price cuts on Sunday that included reductions of 50 percent on select quad-core processors. The chipmaker also introduced new Celeron and Core 2 Duo processor models.
The price of the Core 2 Quad Q6700 (2.66GHz) fell 50 percent from $530 to $266, while the quad-core Xeon X3230 (2.66GHz) saw an identical cut: from $530 to $266.
Celeron price-cut highlights include the Celeron 430 (1.8GHz), reduced 23 percent from $44 to $34 and the dual-core Celeron E1200 (1.6GHz), falling 19 percent from $53 to $43.
The dual-core Xeon 3085 (3GHz) was reduced 29 percent from $266 to $188, and the Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 (3GHz), from $266 to $183, or 31 percent.
Pentium dual-core chips saw price drops too: The E2200 (2.2GHz) and E2180 (2GHz) were cut 12 percent and 14 percent to $74 and $64, respectively.
The chipmaker introduced the dual-core Celeron E1400 (2GHz) at a price of $53 and Celeron 570 (2.66GHz) at $134.
New Core 2 Duo chips were also introduced. The E8300 (6MB cache, 2.83GHz) and the E7200 (3MB cache, 2.53GHz) at $163 and and $133, respectively.
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9924121-7.html?tag=nefd.top
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cool, if I wasn't happy with my machine I'd be excited about those moves...
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Bugger! Still, I think I got mine for a reasonable price. :)
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I might try and get a quad in a couple of weeks. Either I'll do that or wait a year for them to hit $100.
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Michael said we should have waited and gotten a quad, but I think a duo core 2 meets his needs. Plus we really couldn't wait that long as his cpu temps were getting up to 92 degrees c. :o
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Michael said we should have waited and gotten a quad, but I think a duo core 2 meets his needs. Plus we really couldn't wait that long as his cpu temps were getting up to 92 degrees c. :o
Average is ~32c. 92F is just about 2 degrees above that. If your husband told you it was running hot to get you to buy a new computer you got rickydooed. If you were worried though you could have just gotten a better cpu fan.
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=574&name=CPU-Fans-Heatsinks
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that was 92 degrees Celsius... so 3x the average.
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that was 92 degrees Celsius... so 3x the average.
Yep, I didn't see her c. Still the majority of the time its a fan problem.
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We replaced the stock fan a long time ago with Arctic Freezer Pro's, on both computers. Michael's computer has gone through various upgrades, and we were both aware that his cpu and mobo needed replacing. Reaching those high temps just made it more urgent.
Oh, Michael is my son and he is doing IT at TAFE, and he doesn't try to "rickydoo" ? me.
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You can say you officially know a colloquial Texas term. Rickydoo is another way of saying taking advantage. I'm glad your son Michael has gotten his IT degree, but I'm not Australian so I wouldn't be familiar with TAFE. When did he graduate?
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all these local terms - it just bostin to see.
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Crickey Sam, you pair are doing my head in. At least I have a translation page for brummie, not so easy for texan though. Don't ya just love the english language. :crazy:
TAFE is technical and further education colleges. He hasn't graduated yet, he's doing certificate 4 in IT, he is suppose to go on and do the diploma, but he's not sure if he wants to, might as well.
Anyway can someone explain the benefits of a quad over the duo core 2's. :dunno: :)
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4 nodes instead of 2 misty.
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Crickey Sam, you pair are doing my head in. At least I have a translation page for brummie, not so easy for texan though. Don't ya just love the english language. :crazy:
TAFE is technical and further education colleges. He hasn't graduated yet, he's doing certificate 4 in IT, he is suppose to go on and do the diploma, but he's not sure if he wants to, might as well.
Anyway can someone explain the benefits of a quad over the duo core 2's. :dunno: :)
Check the CPU charts, i would go for a duo core 2.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2007/itunes-7-1-1-5,378.html?p=%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C1217%2C1273%2C1272%2C1271%2C1270%2C1269%2C1275%2C1308%2C1307%2C1306%2C1268%2C1267%2C1274%2C1253%2C1266%2C1252%2C1264%2C1263%2C1228%2C1251%2C1250%2C1262%2C1248%2C1249%2C1245%2C1246%2C1247%2C1305%2C1244%2C1242%2C1243%2C1240%2C1241%2C1260%2C1259%2C1304%2C1239%2C1238%2C1237%2C1235%2C1236%2C1300%2C1258%2C1234%2C1255%2C1257%2C1299%2C1233%2C1232%2C1231%2C1230%2C1256%2C1298%2C1229%2C1254%2C1297%2C1296
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It looks like they're just encoding a movie. There aren't that many windows softwares that take advantage of multiple cores these days. I think that's why quads were originally only sold to businesses. The average person might not be able to take advantage of it, but the administrator getting his mail server hammered could.
Yeah, a degree looks real good on the old resume even if it is a simple two year. Scotty got a 2 year degree in IT about a year or two ago. I could have graduated with the same thing, but I didn't think there was much work in it these days. At the time it seemed like everyone was going into computers and all the companies were sending their IT jobs to india.
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It looks like they're just encoding a movie. There aren't that many windows softwares that take advantage of multiple cores these days. I think that's why quads were originally only sold to businesses. The average person might not be able to take advantage of it, but the administrator getting his mail server hammered could.
too right but the software companies are now started to take advantage of these - especially in the gaming would.
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4 nodes instead of 2 misty.
:lol: Geez thanks Sam, even little old me worked that bit out. :crazy:
Thanks for the link gmax, Michael can now boast that his E8400 is better than his mates quad.
Reno, doing any sort of further education while you work out what you want to do with your life, is better than doing nothing. And if your love computers, it's good to see if you want to spend your day working on them, as well as spending your nights playing games on them. (plus I get a free in house tech. ;))
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You're back in now then, MB. ;)
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Yep, you can't keep me out for long. ;D
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:lol: Geez thanks Sam, even little old me worked that bit out. :crazy:
lol. That is the benefit though, you get 4 processors to run stuff on. It won't make XP faster as it is not parallelised, i.e. it will just use one node at a time, but the newer software it will... especially with video encoding and games.
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So for the latest pc games, are you saying that the new quads would run them better?
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maybe. I'm not sure, it depends if they actually take advantage of this. The older games probably would run slower(?) as the individual nodes are slower? I think.
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I was going to get a quad, but took the advice given by Sandra and others here and went for a dual instead. Seems to run fine, apart from all the other problems. ::)
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Thanks Sam, it doesn't matter, he's really happy with it, and I'm not buying anything else for it. Well we have replaced the whole computer, oops nope. We had to return the new DVD Burner, so he's still using the old ones, they're cheap.
Glad it's running well Simon, looking at that link gmax posted duo cores do really well. :D
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I was going to get a quad, but took the advice given by Sandra and others here and went for a dual instead. Seems to run fine, apart from all the other problems. ::)
That's the main reason I'm waiting so long for the parts for my next machine. I want a cheap 2.4ghz or higher quad. By the time they bring the prices down on the faster quads they'll have processors with more cores coming out.
Reno, doing any sort of further education while you work out what you want to do with your life, is better than doing nothing. And if your love computers, it's good to see if you want to spend your day working on them, as well as spending your nights playing games on them. (plus I get a free in house tech. ;))
Good point. I delegated tech to hobby and went on with a different degree. By 2010 I'll have gotten my second degree and be certified to teach 3 different subjects. Sometimes I wish I would have just gone with the IT degree and been at work somewhere by now though. That's why I'm kind of envious of scotty. I'm still broke and in school and he's out there making the bigbucks at a bank. :bawl:
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If you can turn a hobby in to a comfortable living, then that's a bonus. Money isn't everything, as long as you have a roof over your head, food in your belly and you're obviously getting a good education. What will you be teaching, please don't tell me it's American history. :)x
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Math, French, and Art :laugh: Once you pick up a BA or BS and get certified in one subject all you have to do is take the individual certification test for the others. My main BS is in Math with a minor in french. Art is just something I do on the side to stay sane.
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My main BS is in Math with a minor in french. Art is just something I do on the side to stay sane.
Don't be so modest, I've read some of your BS......... :laugh: just kidding, I couldn't resist. (please tell me you have a sense of humour) Arguing with someone without a sense of humour is very boring. ;D
Doing Math, you'd have to do something else to keep your sanity, mind you I hated english, all that bloody Shakespeare. :crazy:
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I do find the American system very odd... I spent 4 solid years doing my undergraduate degree in physics (and that was physics alone, of course there is substainal maths courses) - though we do leave with a MSci. I really feel you should specialise heavily with your degree.
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Don't get me wrong sam. When I say certification I mean for teaching grade school through high school. I can get my main 4 year degree for teaching math and take the teaching courses. Then all I have to do is take the certification test to teach it. Since I already have the teaching classes behind me I can go and take the certification tests to teach the other subjects. Most people specialize and don't fool with getting the minors or the other certifications. I do it because it looks good on a resume. Math teachers are in demand and so are teachers who can teach different subjects. Comprendre?
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yep, but does everyone going to university just do one course for their whole degree? or do they all do some form of minors.
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It depends on the degree people go for. The education for hard sciences requires four foreign language credits. When you have four you mine as well take two more classes and pick up the minor. It really just depends on how much effort is require to pick it up. Three out of the 10 people in my french classes said they were getting the minor. In my art classes where only one foreign language is required for the degree the majority just do one degree and go to bachelors with it. It's more common for people to go to grad school there then it is for people to pick up minors. For those that just want to get out in as little time as required they just do the classes for their specific subject. Those are the people that plan to go to grad school and so forth. If people planning on getting their masters worked on a bunch of minors on the way up they would end up adding a year or two on to an already 5 to 6 year degree plan.
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ok that explains a few things thanks... I'm still not sure I think that's a great way of doing things... but well thats how it is. We have the option of picking up extra credits but the department are always a bit finigity about allowing them to count for your main degree. I picked up extra courses in Spanish and Arabic.
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I don't understand why they would be so rigid. It's all money to the university. Over here for the university money not your education is the main order of business. If the UK actually has universities that care about your success then you have a better system indeed.
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well im pretty sure that's how it used to be... but we are definitely more about the money now... less staff more students, with lower grades of entry - you get the pictures