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Technical Help & Discussion => Self Building, Upgrading & General Hardware Help => Topic started by: David on June 28, 2008, 21:20
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I am not up this stuff as Simon may testify to...I have a machine with just 512 MB and Im looking to upgrade to 1 GB x 2 now I have been told that finding these sticks may prove hard so may be just maybe someone here may be able to assist.
Motherboard is a Prescott 800 P4i65G,not that this means that much.I have tried Crucial but cant find them there.
The labels are DDR 333 MhZ CL2.5 The present memory is Hynix.
I bought this machine used some time ago and havnt a clue if the component parts are good bad or anything so any advice would be helpful
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are you sure... here (http://www.crucial.com/uk//store/listmodule/DDR3/~DDR3%20PC3-8500~~DDR3%20PC3-10600~~DDR3%20PC3-12800~~DDR3%20PC3-16000~/list.html) any of these of use? Did you try Crucial's tool?
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No Sam I couldn't the machine isn't plugged in so could nt scan it I thought that I needed to match all the details.I have found some on a site Im still not sure if it is correct procedure to put the link so I havnt.RK you probably know who they are.
Im thick as two short planks when it comes to PCs as you may learn one day to your cost :crazy: I still have trouble changing light bulbs but thats another story
I did try scanning the machine a few months ago but the scanner could not recognize the make.and I have nevr heard of it "Infinity" Its my old machine which I gave to my daughter but the lack of memory stops her playing her games (she is only 9) so I thought I would try and upgrade the RAM at least.
I have been reading through the old posts here with Simon and the old one with Simon and Tony to get an idea of how to actually build my own...... :woot:
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are you sure... here (http://www.crucial.com/uk//store/listmodule/DDR3/~DDR3%20PC3-8500~~DDR3%20PC3-10600~~DDR3%20PC3-12800~~DDR3%20PC3-16000~/list.html) any of these of use? Did you try Crucial's tool?
What put me off Sam was mine has 2.5 and these have 1.5 I take it that this makes no difference.or is it the case that as long as it is under that what I think is voltage that counts :crazy:
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I am not up this stuff as Simon may testify to...I have a machine with just 512 MB and Im looking to upgrade to 1 GB x 2 now I have been told that finding these sticks may prove hard so may be just maybe someone here may be able to assist.
Motherboard is a Prescott 800 P4i65G,not that this means that much.I have tried Crucial but cant find them there.
The labels are DDR 333 MhZ CL2.5 The present memory is Hynix.
I bought this machine used some time ago and havnt a clue if the component parts are good bad or anything so any advice would be helpful
1GB x 2 DDR333 CL2.5 (http://www.crucial.com/uk//store/listmodule/DDR3/~DDR3%20PC3-8500~~DDR3%20PC3-10600~~DDR3%20PC3-12800~~DDR3%20PC3-16000~/list.html)
Select : DDR
Select: DDR PC2700/333
Select pins: 184 pin [check your memory stick pins]
Select Density: 2GB
Select: Kit [they are matched pair]
Select Error checking: [Again check your existing memory stick]
Hope that is clear, when I say check, you have to actually uncheck the other options leaving only the ones you want. Should cost £51 ish
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If you've read our old threads, David, you'll still have NO idea how to build a PC, but plenty on how to break one! ;D
But seriously, we do like ongoing projects, with all the trials and tribulations, and, hopefully, eventual triumphs. ;)
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CL doesn't refer to the voltage, its all about the timing accuracy.. (its actually the column access strobe latency) ... essentially I believe the smaller the number this is the better. If you fancy a bit more of a technical read try here (http://www.ccs.neu.edu/course/com3200/parent/NOTES/DDR.html) but I wouldn't worry, its the section under timing that gives some info... but essentially I don't really think it matters but I'd try and get lower.
Might still be worth running Crucial's memory checker if you can...
I just noticed what Crucial's advice is on this:
CAS latency (also referred to as latency) is the amount of time it takes for your memory to respond to a command. Specifically, it is the length of time between memory receiving a command to read data, and the first piece of data being sent from the memory.
Unless you are a computer enthusiast looking to push every last bit of performance out of your system, CAS latency needn't be a deciding factor when purchasing memory modules.
You may see CAS latency (clock latency) referred to as CAS#, CL#, CAS=# or CL=#. The performance difference between CAS latency ratings is virtually undetectable.
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Ah that is clearer thanks you folks I found some with the exact spec all numbers and that are the same and they are retailing at £13.99 each so..With the latency issue because I saw the letter v I thought it was reduced voltage This is going to be a long road.. ;D
At least I have taken a really good look inside and can see where things are connected and also identified work I have paid for and to be honest if it was just a case of plugging in and installing drivers...I paid a lot of money.on more than one occasion...and I supplied a lot of the parts... :-\ Anyway I will do a little on this one and do some more homework and then start shopping.....
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If you've read our old threads, David, you'll still have NO idea how to build a PC, but plenty on how to break one! ;D
But seriously, we do like ongoing projects, with all the trials and tribulations, and, hopefully, eventual triumphs. ;)
I don't need lessons how to break one Simon I only have to place my magic hands on the keyboard listen for the groan and job done ;D
Im going to dismantle this spare one to see what its all about.then put it back together ...... :blush:
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What put me off Sam was mine has 2.5 and these have 1.5 I take it that this makes no difference.or is it the case that as long as it is under that what I think is voltage that counts :crazy:
Just to thank you for the link Sam just read it and found it very informative...got the jist of it and I have decided to enrole in a course at my local college as soon as they start this summer.
I do want to build one and decided after some thought and a nudge from the wife to try and get some knowledge on all of this and course seems the right thing,may help me from making myself look soo stupid.......and it can only be a good thing.I dont want to programme the things just to build and get a real understanding.....may prove a good move one day ::)
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That would be a good move, David. Another feather in your cap, so to speak. Don't forget though, once you've done the course, we'll all be coming to you for help! ;D
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That would be a bonus but doubt I would get to the level you guys are up to.. ;D
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Just finished reading your first build Simon and cant believe I understood most of it......Ive got through my new book already this palce is brilliant for research :thumbs:
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Where did you find the thread of my first build, David? I was looking for it the other day, and I thought it had gone. :(
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I've just added another 1GB of memory, in anticipation of installing the Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition w/SP2c I've ordered, but waiting for it to be delivered.
Its the exact same kit I used when I built this PC back in August 2006: Kingston 1GB Kit (2x512MB) DDR PC3200/400MHz Memory Non-ECC CL3 Unbuffered 2.6V. Only difference being back then it cost £59 for a matched pair, whereas today they cost me £28.
So memory is not like houses then, always going up, oh hang on a minute yes it is, they are both going down :o:
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Bugger I have it bookmarfed on the old pc it even had a photo its really good and Im learning a lot.....I will find it Simon.....
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That would be a good move, David. Another feather in your cap, so to speak. Don't forget though, once you've done the course, we'll all be coming to you for help! ;D
Just rememberered Simon....go into your thread building your pc (2nd one) and if you go through this there is a link to the first one it mentions someone who helped (might have been Tony) but if I recall the guy just had 2 initials rather than a name..hope this helps if not I think I can back track and find it...as I said Im researching the thing but its on the HD of the PB :cry:
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I found it, David, and yes I remember that thread, but that wasn't actually the first one, which seems to have disappeared, probably when we changed forum software at some point - either that or Clive 'pruned' it. ;)
Anyway, there is still plenty of good stuff around here - it's a bit like Time Team, you have to dig for it. ;D
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But do you do the geophys first? :)
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:what:
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Not a Time Team fan then? ;)
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Nope. No time for it. :)
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:groan:
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I don't know where I dug that one up from. :)x
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I found it, David, and yes I remember that thread, but that wasn't actually the first one, which seems to have disappeared, probably when we changed forum software at some point - either that or Clive 'pruned' it. ;)
Anyway, there is still plenty of good stuff around here - it's a bit like Time Team, you have to dig for it. ;D
I hope I dont get too entrenched in this though Simon ;D
Did you live in Bury at the time,the parts you got hold off seem dirt cheap, still you seem to have to shop far a field to get what you needed or plough through a lots of bargains...There is a good stockist up in the north near Barrow in Furrow ness :devil:
If you cant find it on the map its 23 degrees north of Watford....sorry you will need a Pro Tractor ;D ;D
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I didnt really want to inter this thread
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:groan: :groan: :groan:
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:thanks: ::)