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Technical Help & Discussion => Windows PCs & Software: Help, News & Discussion => Topic started by: Tony on November 30, 2008, 23:28
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not posting for the same six hours ?
We......well to be honest, Sandra was at it for six hours non stop?
But the outcome was a beautiful baby .......
Medion AKOYA P7300D, sporting an nice dual boot XP Pro 32 bit, and Vista Ultima 64 bit operating systems.
These Medion machines, are set up in such a way that they just reject any OS other than what Medion put on them. Medion give you two disks, one is Vista 32 bit or Vista 64 bit, but the PC will only accept either one of them, not both on the same machine. Nor will they let you install any other OS, if you don't like either of the flavours on offer.
But "Wonder Woman" did it again.........................I'll let the proud mother tell you the tale herself, for one thing she knows what she is talking about :thumbs:
So tomorrow, I'll be installing my second graphics card [PCI] and seeing if the PC will support it alongside the PCI-Express graphics card in XP Pro. As you know it would not support it in Vista, so the answer to the question, is it a "Hardware or OS conflict" will be answered tomorrow :o:
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Tony broke the golden rule and rang me at 10-30am :o
He turned up around an hour later and dumped his brand new Medion on my desk.
Hed been trying to install a copy of XP Pro 32 bit and was expecting to be able to wipe the original OS off the drive and to be able to create 3 partitions on it , one for XP, another partition for Vista 64 and a third partition for storage.
As it booted from the XP CD it got to the copying files part and blue screened.
We both thought that it was something on the hard drive that Medion had put on to stop it taking another non medion supplied OS for some reason.
I tried a few things which all ended up with the blue screen before it would format the drive so I took the drive out and added it to one of my pcs, formatted it and created the 3 partitions in disk management.
We put it back in Tonys PC and booted from the XP CD. Same thing happened again at the same point.
I decided to look in the bios and eventually noticed that it wasnt detecting the SATA drive.
I dont know how it was managing to boot into its original Vista installation as it couldnt find the hard drive that the OS was on and I still dont know how it could do it ???
Looking at the settings in the BIOS it didnt even list the SATA drive in the list of drives at first, then it appeared somehow after I clicked on something but cant remember what I clicked on, but it still wouldnt find it when installing an OS, until I altered it from being AHCI to IDE.
Once we had changed that setting in the BIOS it installed without any further problems, apart from getting the drivers to install.
Eventually we had it dual booted with XP pro 32 bit and Vista Ultimate 64 with everything working correctly and Tony drove off back over the border to the dark side (Yorkshire) around 6pm :)
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Well done you two! A marriage made in heaven, it sounds! :)x
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Just found this that explains why Tony couldnt just install XP when he initially tried it :
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
From what I have read elsewhere the only real advantage in using the AHCI driver is to make your SATA drive hot swappable, not really advisable if your SATA drive is the boot drive, as in Tony's case ::)
Looks like you are never too old to learn :)
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These Medion machines, are set up in such a way that they just reject any OS other than what Medion put on them. Medion give you two disks, one is Vista 32 bit or Vista 64 bit, but the PC will only accept either one of them, not both on the same machine. Nor will they let you install any other OS, if you don't like either of the flavours on offer.
That's really odd... I've installed Ubuntu onto a number of Medion machines, albeit not that type of machine... never had a problem (apart from a few odd drivers). Maybe it deals with the AHCI driver stuff... cause I've done it on machines where that was enabled (either that or I disabled it without thinking...). Either way though, great result!
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I experienced similar issues with my Hewlett-Packard computer, so I doubt it's just a Medion problem. In the end I gave up and resigned myself to using Vista.
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I think its because this new Medion is all SATA Sam. Previous ones were SATA plus a single IDE channel. So they would initially be set to run in IDE mode I assume.
I havent come across a fully SATA mobo before, only mixed SATA and IDE so I havent had that problem before.
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I have had a couple of Gateways that did this
It is a big pain
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Well if you all remember, the reason I wanted to install XP on the Medion, was because on my self build PC, I had dual booted W2K Pro 32 bit and XP Pro 64 bit. And the Matrox PCI lived alongside the Geforce AGP in complete harmony. Well we got XP 32 bit dual booting with Vista, and where as Vista still only showed the Matrox as a disabled card error code 43. in Control > System> Hardware, and hence its total absence in Display Properties. Booted to XP, in Hardware it states the device is working correctly. And it shows up in Display Properties , as two yet to be enabled displays. But once you try and enable them, you get the message that the drivers are for an earlier version of windows and are not compatible. And all trace of it disappears in Display Properties.
Also when you boot too XP, I get an error message stating the the drivers for the PCI-E card are for an earlier version of windows, hence it has not been enabled, and is using the default VGA monitor. When in fact the card is displaying the Highest 32 bit colours, and can support maximum 1680x 1050 pixels.
It's as if I had booted into Vista, this to me confirmed my fears that there was indeed a OS conflict caused by Vista, and not a hardware issue.
So I've decided to remove Vista altogether, and see if I can transfer my XP Pro 64 bit, onto the Medion, by speaking to a nice man/or not on the India Sub Continent. If not, I'll shift it via the Medion forum [there is a lot of sorry punters who missed getting one] or return it to Aldi under their 30 day returns policy. Don't get me wrong, I think the Medion P7300 D is a cracking machine, and will be vexed to see it go. I could not build it myself for that price, never mind the three year warranty. But I'm buggered if its going to sit there and have the odd game of Freecell played on it, between the odd visit to the M&S website.
I'll let you know how I go one ::)
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What a let down. Sorry to hear it's not working out as well as expected, Tony.
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Have not gone to validation yet, but the PC is now at a state where there is no trace of Vista on it, only XP Pro 64 bit. And the graphics cards are working perfectly side by side with the ability to support four displays, no issues whatsoever.
So like I suspected in the beginning,it is a Vista issue not a hardware issue. And I'm not on my own, I read some where on the web that people where having this kind of issue with Vista, and Microsoft admited as much. I'll try and find the link if I can.
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This looks like it is the cause of it,
Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/multimonVista.mspx)
Multimonitor Support in WDDM
On Windows Vista, older XPDM drivers still work and the multi-monitor behavior with XPDM drivers hasn't changed, because the operating system uses the legacy graphics stack.
However, the Windows Vista Display Driver Model (WDDM) brings fundamental changes to the management of multiple graphics adapters and external displays. This includes a new restriction, because WDDM drivers do not support "heterogeneous multi-adapter" multi-monitor implementations. Specifically:
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All graphics adapters in a system must use the same display driver model. That is, all of them should either be running XPDM or WDDM. The driver models are mutually exclusive, and Windows Vista does not allow the simultaneous loading of both an XPDM driver and a WDDM driver.
If a system has one graphics adapter with a XPDM driver and another with a WDDM driver, then Windows Vista will choose the POST device, which is the one with VGA resources. This is commonly referred to as the "VGA adapter."
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If multiple graphics adapters are present in a system, all of them must use the same WDDM driver. If there are two graphics adapters with WDDM drivers from two different manufacturers, then Windows will disable one of them. The VGA adapter will be enabled, and the second device will be disabled.
Notice that XPDM drivers still support heterogeneous multi-adapter as they did in Windows XP. A user who has such a configuration working fine in Windows XP will encounter a problem when upgrading to Windows Vista. An external monitor connected to one of the graphics adapters will have no video signal, because it is disabled. An error message will appear on system boot, as described later in this article.
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Right, I explained to the nice India gentleman my predicement, about me wanting to transfer my recently purchased XP Pro 64 bit from my 2006 build PC.[I ommitted to say I had purchased a OEM copy] Because OEMversions are really ment to be for new build PC's, and not transferable to another PC. But surely Microsoft and he would beable to deduce that info from the XP installation. Anyway, he says you want to downgrade from Vista....I says yes due to the driver incompatability issue ..................So he did it for me, what a nice man.
Right I said I would take the XP Pro of my self build. And that is not a problem to me really because I have a "cough" copy of XP Pro 32 bit [which runs the latest games, whereas W2K Pro does not] But the "what if question" for sake of discusion is.....would the original XP Pro 64 bit still run and access security updates............................not that I will risk it .........anyway discuss ::)
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Haven't a clue really, but one might assume that as long as the Windows installation is licenced, and activated, it should receive updates. If one were to try to run two machines on the same licence, one would stop working. But I know nothing... :)
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Haven't a clue really, but one might assume that as long as the Windows installation is licenced, and activated, it should receive updates. If one were to try to run two machines on the same licence, one would stop working. But I know nothing... :)
Yes I see the logic in what your saying.
For those members like me who have not done a phone activation of Windows, here's how it pans out.
Obviously I did the phone up activation, so I could tell them the "tale" A rack of numbers come on screen [ 7 sets of 6 numbers]and you have to key them into the phone. Then of course, being an already activated copy, it failed validation, so put through to a guy who takes the first set of 6 numbers from you , and then if after hearing your story and accepts it as being a valid reason, you give him the last set of 6 numbers [missing out the middle 5 sets of 6 numbers that appeared on your desktop] And in return he gives you 7 sets of 6 different numbers to type into the boxes on the screen, your copy of windows is activated.
What made me think was, the guy never actually instructed me to remove the other installation........when I said I would, after he activated this installation.......he just said, yes you can do that.......not yes you must do that. Must admit it would save a lot of hassle not having to install an XP Pro 32 bit copy and re installing all the programs ::)
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I'm assuming that the licence transfers from one machine to the other, so when you try to use the 'old' machine, it will 'de-validate' itself when you connect to t'net, and ask you to activate it, which, of course, you can't do, as you've already used the licence. No harm in trying it though. ;)
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Nar I'll give it a miss Simon, I don't want MS to think I'm not one to be trusted regarding software piracy....that would never do.
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Well I re imaged the XP Pro 64 bit, back onto my original PC today. It was an image I had made back end of September, straight after I first installed and activated it.
As soon as it booted up, Microsoft auto updater downloaded the latest updates, I rebooted it and it's ticking along nicely. I suppose as nothing has changed hardware wise from the original activation, Microsoft is happy, so that makes two of us. :thumbs:
I then tried the MS update site on the Medion, now running on the same OS. It downloaded 13.02MB of security fixes without a hitch,
I love these two for one deals ;D
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Nice! :thumb:
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Medion AKOYA P7300D, sporting an nice dual boot XP Pro 32 bit, and Vista Ultima 64 bit operating systems.
These Medion machines, are set up in such a way that they just reject any OS other than what Medion put on them. Medion give you two disks, one is Vista 32 bit or Vista 64 bit, but the PC will only accept either one of them, not both on the same machine. Nor will they let you install any other OS, if you don't like either of the flavours on offer.
But "Wonder Woman" did it again.........................I'll let the proud mother tell you the tale herself, for one thing she knows what she is talking about :thumbs:
So tomorrow, I'll be installing my second graphics card [PCI] and seeing if the PC will support it alongside the PCI-Express graphics card in XP Pro. As you know it would not support it in Vista, so the answer to the question, is it a "Hardware or OS conflict" will be answered tomorrow :o:
Hello Sandra and Tony!
I have just bought the exact same machine, but i'm not an expert with computers, although I know the basic stuff etc.. but Vista is really doing my head in and i managed to make a partition out of the 1 TB sata hdd (120 GB), so now i have C:BOOT D: RECOVER and this 3rd partition i made in vista, but could you please tell me how to install winXP on this machine - step by step guide would be nice cause as said i know something but not much... I read somewhere you should disable sata drivers AHCI in bios, but can't find that option in Phoenix bios, also something about installing a program called n-lite and make a slipdisc or something... but could you please tell me how to format my C drive on this machine and install winXP only? I get the same blue screen when i boot from my winXP disc... much appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Peter
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I decided to look in the bios and eventually noticed that it wasnt detecting the SATA drive.
I dont know how it was managing to boot into its original Vista installation as it couldnt find the hard drive that the OS was on and I still dont know how it could do it ???
Looking at the settings in the BIOS it didnt even list the SATA drive in the list of drives at first, then it appeared somehow after I clicked on something but cant remember what I clicked on, but it still wouldnt find it when installing an OS, until I altered it from being AHCI to IDE.
Once we had changed that setting in the BIOS it installed without any further problems, apart from getting the drivers to install.
How did you altered it from being AHCI to IDE? and how did you solve the problem with getting the drivers to install after?
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Hi Peter, and :welc:
I'm sure Sandra or Tony will be along to help you soon. :)
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Hi Peter,
You have two options in how to install XP on your Medion.
The correct way, I found out after we had done Tonys :blush:
Is to press F6 when asked if you need to install extra drivers for SATA or SCSI drives and tell it where you have the SATA drivers. Usually at that point you would have the SATA drivers on a floppy, unfortunately your pc doesnt have a floppy drive so you could use an external floppy or possibly a USB flash drive. I think the drivers should be on the XP CD, probably in system 32 folder but I have never had to do it, possibly they may be available on the medion manufacturers site or even on the Recover partition on your hard drive, look for the Tools folder.
The way we did it on Tonys was to enter the BIOS and alter the AHCI setting to IDE in the part of the bios that I think was for onboard peripherals but may have been a different screen. Maybe Tony can have a look at his bios and tell you which screen it was in.
Once that was changed and Save Changes and Exit was selected it booted off the XP CD and installed as normal.
Someone said that once its been installed that way then you cant use the HDD2Go drive in the recessed bay or anther external SATA drive as its set to run as IDE.
You can however change the setting from IDE back to AHCI once XP has been installed and you should be able to boot from either system as normal and use the bay and external SATA drives.
Normally for dual booting you would install the older OS first then the newer one so it should be XP then Vista, so if you still have problems installing XP after following either of the 2 methods described then you will have to back up your Recover partition to a DVD or external drive then format the drive and install XP and create your partitions when installing it.
Then you can install Vista as the second OS.
Let me know if you need any clarification on anything :)
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Courtesy of CarpetBurn on the Aldi/Medion forum @ http://www.medionsupport.com/phpbb2/index.php
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1 Enter the bios as sandra did and change AHCI to IDE (this technically is the wrong way as it means if the HDD was external it wont work... Doesnt really matter when installing to a internal drive, will work 100% fine and you can alter the bios back after installing XP and placing all the machines drivers etc on there....... but still technically its the wrong way so to speak )
2 When windows xp starts to boot from the CD press and hold down F6, this will bring up a screen which allows you to install the needed SATA drivers which come on the CD in the (Intel floppy disk folder) This technically is the right way to do things, however with this machine you cant do it unless you have a usb flash drive to put those files on as there is no floppy drive (obviously)
3 What i did and what is the best thing to do incase you need to re-install in the future....
Download a wonderful app called NLITE (google is your friend) for those that dont know its an app that basically allows you to make a copy of your XP disk only you can integrate service packs and additional drivers you may need. Basically you take that app, copy youru XP cd onto your HDD, point NLITE to the sata floppy drives and it will integrate them into a nice shiney new XP cd which will run with no bios fiddling and no floppy/F6 key messing about
You can also do the opposite and rip stuff out of windows with it (as example remove Internet Explorer) to streamline your windows xp install
There is also a vista version of the app named VLITE which does the same (IE integrates drivers and service packs or allows you to shrink the size of of your op system etc etc) only difference is its for vista. Both apps are very handy to have about, VLITE especially as SP2 is supposed to be on the way soon, so thats a nice shiney vista dvd with SP2 integrated you can all soon make.
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Download a wonderful app called NLITE (google is your friend) for those that dont know its an app that basically allows you to make a copy of your XP disk only you can integrate service packs and additional drivers you may need. Basically you take that app, copy youru XP cd onto your HDD, point NLITE to the sata floppy drives and it will integrate them into a nice shiney new XP cd which will run with no bios fiddling and no floppy/F6 key messing about
Ok thanks a lot guys.. so far I just installed n-lite and integrated service pack 3, after that i added as many hotfixes/updates as i could find on the microsoft update page as shown on the screen :
(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg390.imageshack.us%2Fimg390%2F4070%2Fnlite01ey3.jpg&hash=265a8daa5f9c218cfb70f83ef8ca0450353160c6)
(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg519.imageshack.us%2Fimg519%2F7097%2Fnlite03cz2.jpg&hash=f56c3f34aef43603a8d614ce9588cd29e399bc1e)
Next is the drivers page, i uploaded latest nvidia drivers for it, but i'm not sure what to add more.. chipset drivers? and sata drivers? .. where can i find these and how do i make sure it's the right ones i add.. maybe you could pass some links or for a download maybe? :blush:
*Edit*
and what settings do i make here - default is automatic :
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If you go to this page :
http://www.medion.co.uk/ then click on Service and Support then More on Product Drivers and Updates you get to a page where you can enter your serial number and that will take you to a page where all the available drivers and updates are available to download.
The top two look like the ones you will need to download and add to that program to make your new CD from.
Chipset Driver Intel
Win 2000/Win 2003/Win Vista x64/Win Vista x86/Win XP/Win XP Media Center
01.08.2008 - Version: 8.4.0.1016
Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager
Win Vista x64/Win Vista x86/Win XP/Win XP Media Center/Win XP x64
01.08.2008 - Version: 7.8.0.1012
The storage manager is the SATA/RAID drivers but the info says you need to install the Chipset drivers before the ycan be used.
Due to the way Medion do their downloads it will probably be a self extracting file that will install to or if the folder isnt there it will make a new folder on C for drivers. So you need to see where its extracting them to so you can find them to add to that program.
Hope thats all it needs, as I havent done it myself I am assuming a lot from what I have read and posted here already or the information from the medion drivers update page :)
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Oh bugger I just did a reply, but before I posted it, I hit the notify button. Page refreshed, and I lost the post, sod it it's past my bedtime. In any case I'm like you Proxima, know a bit, but not enough. I also need a step by step instruction to get it right, regards this Medion issue, I was an IDE man until I bought that Medion. I've no doubt Sandra would sort it if she had a Medion machine but she ain't, that is why she's a bit in the dark as to what to do. But she is setting you on the right path by the looks.
Anyway if you want me to look in my Bios I will, but obviously its past my bedtime right now. Just let me know tomorrow and I'll have a look.
PS: I'm still running my Medion how Sandra set it up, not a problem accessing external Sata drives, as the internal 1000GB is overkill for me.
Catch you later, Oh and welcome to the board.
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np and thanks Tony, but what i understand from Sandra is that was one option to do it, changing AHCI to IDE in bios, but the way i choosed to do it is slipstreaming a new XP cd (n-lite) with all nessary drivers for sata, chipset etc, so that i don't need to change anything in bios at all, but thanks for your support anyway :thumbs:
@Sandra.. I downloaded both drivers for Intel and Storage manager from the medion site, but what i get is 2 executable files which cant be extracted to a folder with winzip or winrar as i did with all the hotfixes/updates from microsoft.. and N-Lite needs .inf files to add drivers to it, so how do i extract and locate these inf files from the excutables shown on the screens below?
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I think that you just run the files in your windows OS and it will create a folder on C, if a folder doesnt already exist, probably one called drivers or maybe in the system 32 folder. It should say when you double left click on it where its installing to, for each file. Then you can go to that location and add the .inf and anything else that N Lite asks for :)
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Ok I found a program called "Universal Extractor" that could extract any exe files, it did the trick so far, and i managed to extract both contents of the drivers, it found the inf file from Intel chipset and i slipstreamed that one with no problems, but then i tried the same to the matrix storage content, but n-lite couldnt recognize any inf files from the content on the screen below, closest thing to a inf file is a inx - but are you sure i need to slipstream matrix storage, and its is the right one for sata drivers?
(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg385.imageshack.us%2Fimg385%2F5509%2Funavngivetwi1.jpg&hash=e23ae72b7e01b7a1f3ed4fab19ba37b19ac746d2)
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As I said earlier I havent actually done it myself and as Tony said I havent got a Medion pc here at the moment to test anything on.
Maybe that program you used doesnt extract the .inf because running the exe may actually create one itself from the .dll, .inx and .iss files as it installs to a folder ???
Just try running the exe and see what it does :)
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np and thanks Tony, but what i understand from Sandra is that was one option to do it, changing AHCI to IDE in bios, but the way i choosed to do it is slipstreaming a new XP cd (n-lite) with all nessary drivers for sata, chipset etc, so that i don't need to change anything in bios at all, but thanks for your support anyway :thumbs:
Hi Proxima, I understand exactly what your trying to do mate. But having read through the thread, I noted Sandra had said, if you wanted anything checking regards what she had done in the bios , that Tony would look. And I was merely confirming that offer, even though I understood you are attempting to undertake "carpetburn" Option 3.
Incidently, right now already having XP installed, and as I use Acronis True Image, to make a image of C:Drive [for reinstall purposes] I would settle for knowing which drivers I need installing [how and where] regards carpetburn's Option 1
"Enter the bios as sandra did and change AHCI to IDE (this technically is the wrong way as it means if the HDD was external it wont work... Doesnt really matter when installing to a internal drive, will work 100% fine and you can alter the bios back after installing XP and placing all the machines drivers etc on there"
Sandra deleted the Medion's backup partition, I said leave it there[ but you know what women are like ;) ] The thinking being, if I decided to sell it on or wham it back to Aldi, I could put it back to the default Vista set up. Because unfortunately,without that partition in place with its contents, the rescue disks become usless.
So If I PM you my email address, is there any chance you could, send me a copy of those folders on the Medion backup partition?
Besides, I did notice before that partition was deleted that there was a driver folder on there with not only Vista 32 and 64 bit drivers. But also another folder with XP 32 and 64 bit drivers, which might solve my current problem, of being unable to revert the Bios back to its original settings.
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You cant partially format a drive Tony, thats why we had to delete it :-*
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You cant partially format a drive Tony, thats why we had to delete it :-*
Are you sure Sandra? Basically there were two partitions on the Sata drive. Now I thought you could have deleted the big one and reformatted it, whilst retaining the smaller backup partition. I'm sure I've done that sort of delete partition and reformat operation with Partition Magic. We were only wanting to reformat it because we [at the time] thought something on that partition was stopping us from installing XP. When in fact it was the lack of XP Drivers on the XP install disk that was the problem........all jolly good fun this :laugh:
Now the next question is, who is Tanketorsk (http://medion.adslweb.co.uk/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=8764) ;D
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its no problem to reformat any partion on a drive without altering any other partions on that drive.
As far as windows is concerned they are 2 separate drives.
The only problem with backups etc on a partion of the same drive is that if the drive fails you loose the backup as well.
Tony if you need the stuff off the backup partion I can sort that out for you no problem. ;D
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"Enter the bios as sandra did and change AHCI to IDE (this technically is the wrong way as it means if the HDD was external it wont work...
I am fairly sure that a hddrivetogo will still work fine so long as it is connected when the PC is booted up. however it will not work if you try to plug it in after PC is running (hot swappable is disabled).
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Well we could have deleted and formatted the other two partitions but its always better with a fresh start ;D
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Well we could have deleted and formatted the other two partitions but its always better with a fresh start ;D
Oh you are awful, but I like you ::) ;D
looks like Proxima or Tanketosk got his step by step guide by carpetburn tonight Medion XP thread (http://www.pc-pals.com/smf/index.php?action=post;msg=175577;topic=27021.30;sesc=e294f40d29b89187de61f748fa2de16a) :thumbs:
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Tony if you need the stuff off the backup partion I can sort that out for you no problem. ;D
Cheers Stuart,
I'll take you up on that offer, I may have something in the PC software line you might be interested in, PM me.
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I was sure I posted the post below, last night, any how I'll have another go. If its an issue with posting links to other sites, just say so. It's just that when I use information, I like to attribute it to the source it came from, as I think its only right. Of course it could be my age, and I just nodded off ;D
Anyway
I tried the Option 1 fix regards changing IDE to AHIC, following a link and advice posted on the Medion Support.
And it went as follows:
I used the guide on THIS LINK (http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=106575.0)
For others wanting to do the same with the Akoya P7300 D, here is what I did.
1. Copy /pasted the ICH9R reg edit example [in that first link provided by CB] into Notepad. Saved as instructed, and double clicked to change the registry.
2. Manually copied the iaStor.sys file from the 64 bit folder of the 09.Intel F6 Floppy Utility on Medion Application and Support disk. And pasted it into the Windows\System32\ Drivers folder
3.Rebooted, and entered the bios, changed the Sata setting from IDE option to AHCI, saved and exited.
4. When Windows loaded XP, it found the new hardware, and looked for drivers. So I pointed it at the 64Bit folder in the 09.Intel F6 Floppy Utility on Medion Application and Support disk.
5. Once the drivers were installed, I was instructed to reboot the PC. Which I did and Bingo there it is in Device Manager
(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy147%2Fsuggy1%2Fdevicemanager.jpg&hash=f9240e964db52ac3a19d64d3df7ced2267246b17)
By the way, anybody else thinking of doing it, I had my C: Drive imaged with Acronis True Image. With an Acronis rescue disk to hand in case I cocked up, and could not get into Windows.
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Since I did the changes yesterday, the PC boots up without problem.
I can access and use the DVD drive, see and access and use my USB connected flash drive, or USB connected 2.5 external IDE drive.
But there are two areas that concern me. Firstly when I attempt to boot to a CD drive [like trying to access the PC via a Hirems boot disk] the PC just skips straight through to boot from the hard drive.
In the Bios >Advanced Bios Features
Boot Sequence tab First Boot device [ SATA CDROM IDE]
Second Boot device [ HARD DISK]
Also on entering the Bios > Standard CMOS Features. The Hard Drive and DVD drive are not listed. SATA 1 to 4 all show none.
Like I say, the PC appears to be working fine. As for testing the external SATA connections, I don't have any such drives, so no can do.
any comments or suggestions regards those issues
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Is there another option in bios for SATA CDROM IDE Tony ?
Not in the boot sequence but in the part where you can set the AHCI or IDE.
When booting a SATA enabled PC you can usually boot from any device without needing to go into the bios. Just press F8 as you turn the PC on and it should bring up the BBS popup which you can then select which drive to boot from.
If you dont pres it early enough then you would get the Safe Mode screen option.
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Sandra,
I have done as you suggested, the results of which I have posted other on the Medion forum. Because not only is it about my Medion, but I'm replying to both you and CB over there in any case. Anybody on here who is interested in my step by step walk in the dark, can register over there, to follow the thread.
Short story is though doing as you said gave me the option to select >boot from CD< it was to no avail, as both Acronis Rescue, or Hirems would not load. But I have since tried other things and come up with a work round, that gives me access to external SATA drives, but also allows me to access my PC via rescue disks. Normal running mode run as AHCI, to access my PC via rescue disk, all I need do is revert the Bios setting to IDE.
Job Sorted.
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Maybe you could create a rescue disc incorporating the sata driver using that N Lite program Tony ?