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Title: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Clive on April 20, 2009, 18:46

LINK (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18524911.600-13-things-that-do-not-make-sense.html?full=true)

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 20, 2009, 21:01

A good read, but most of it was over my head.   :blush:

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: sam on April 20, 2009, 23:10

I think the Pioneer anomaly is one of the most interesting items of modern physics that really has not had enough attention.

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: mistybear on April 21, 2009, 08:41

Interesting discussion at the end about homeopathy and the placebo effect.

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 21, 2009, 10:00

I think a lot of homoeopathy is more of a placebo effect, but if it makes people feel better, and doesn't mask a more serious condition, then why not?

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: sam on April 21, 2009, 18:45

Quote from: Simon on April 21, 2009, 10:00

I think a lot of homoeopathy is more of a placebo effect, but if it makes people feel better, and doesn't mask a more serious condition, then why not?

bit like the church..

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Rik on April 21, 2009, 19:06

Though far less dangerous. :)

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: davy51 on April 21, 2009, 20:46

Very interesting questions arise from these examples
The biggest is have we been wrong about rules in physics theory?

Maybe we need new rules

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: sam on April 21, 2009, 22:23

some of the cases are such extreme examples of physics that we have never encountered until now. I believe our general understanding of physics is mostly correct but we are just not understanding some higher order terms. I find dark matter hard to completely swallow, but argue that it makes more sense than modified Newtonian dynamics (with most forms still requiring this gravitationally interacting only matter anyway!). On that specific case the answer will probably come from particle physics... all of physics has a lot to learn from other areas - we just need to widen our horizons.

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: davy51 on April 21, 2009, 22:34

That's the idea Sam
I think there are new rules that will be created as we gain knowledge
We may find that the laws of physics are more complicated and adjustable than we presently believe

As in Sci-Fi stories of the past which became fact maybe we just don't have the knowledge to understand all the rules yet

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: mistybear on April 22, 2009, 11:43

Quote from: Simon on April 21, 2009, 10:00

I think a lot of homoeopathy is more of a placebo effect, but if it makes people feel better, and doesn't mask a more serious condition, then why not?

I know a few people who use Homeopathic remedies, for themselves and their pets. There were a couple of people at my cousins funeral who were using rescue remedy, I chose another natural remedy.....

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 22, 2009, 13:07

Ah, now, if it works for pets, there's no fooling them is there, so there must be something in it.

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: mistybear on April 22, 2009, 13:28

I think, Homeopathy, along with other natural remedies, such as Chinese Medicine, Naturopaths, Chiropractors, all have a place. 

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 22, 2009, 13:30

In the bin?  ;D

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: mistybear on April 22, 2009, 13:39

 :bartmoon:   Simon, have you been told recently?

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 22, 2009, 13:42

:dunno:

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: mistybear on April 22, 2009, 13:48

  :censored:   Well, consider yourself told.

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 22, 2009, 13:49

Still... :dunno:  Wimmin!   ::) :devil: :)x

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: mistybear on April 22, 2009, 13:51

Starts with F, ends with off.   :o:

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 22, 2009, 13:56

Ah, Flintoff.  Sorry, not into cricket.   :wahh:

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: mistybear on April 22, 2009, 14:01

 :aarrgh:   :smartarse:   :splat:

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Clive on April 22, 2009, 14:21

:smirks:  :scoot:

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 22, 2009, 14:28

 :)x

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Rik on April 22, 2009, 14:51

Though you are a Freddie fan. ;)

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 22, 2009, 16:30

Indeed. But that Freddie batted for the other side.  ;)

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Rik on April 22, 2009, 16:57

True, why are so many showbiz types that way inclined I wonder?

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 22, 2009, 20:51

Oscar Wilde?  Didn't he start it?   ;D

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Sandra on April 23, 2009, 00:45

Wasnt it Adam and Steve, according to the bible  ;D

Title: Re: 13 things that do not make sense
Post by: Simon on April 23, 2009, 07:37

Must have been the snake having a hissy fit.  ;D