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General Discussion => Science & Nature => Topic started by: Simon on November 28, 2009, 20:04

Title: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Simon on November 28, 2009, 20:04
The death throes of the biggest star known to science have been observed by Europe's new space telescope, Herschel.

The observatory, launched in May, has subjected VY Canis Majoris, to a detailed spectroscopic analysis.  It has allowed Herschel to identify the different types of molecules and atoms that swirl away from the star which is 30-40 times as massive as our Sun.

(https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnewsimg.bbc.co.uk%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F46814000%2Fgif%2F_46814195_cmaspectrum_466.gif&hash=7fab3f76b347a2bf167936902bf68b6e1f117622)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8382348.stm

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Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Clive on November 28, 2009, 22:23
The star is slightly too faint to be seen with the naked eye but can easily be seen using a pair of small binoculars.  We are lucky that it is nearly 5,000 light years away because if it were as close as Sirius (8.6 light years) it would destroy all life on Earth when it eventually explodes. 
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Simon on November 28, 2009, 23:01
That was close, then. :)
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: GillE on November 28, 2009, 23:46
At least we'd have its fingerprints to help the galactic policemen convict the criminal.
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Rik on November 29, 2009, 12:23
Or is that DNA? ;)
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Simon on November 29, 2009, 18:54
Talking of which, I was told today that when the police do a random breath test for drink driving, they keep the little tube you blow into, as it has your DNA on it.   :-\
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Rik on November 29, 2009, 18:56
In the reality shows I've seen on TV, they generally give it to the person as a 'souvenir'. I'd be very wary if I saw them handle it without gloves and then keep it. Of course, if you fail the test, I think they have the right to take DNA, don't they?
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Simon on November 29, 2009, 18:58
Do they?  What's DNA got to do with a drink driving offence? 
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Rik on November 29, 2009, 18:58
I think they can take DNA for any arrestable offence, can't they?
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Simon on November 29, 2009, 18:59
I guess so, but if you weren't over the limit?
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: sam on November 29, 2009, 19:00
argh... that's pretty good spectroscopy though!
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Rik on November 30, 2009, 12:01
I guess so, but if you weren't over the limit?

Then there's no offence.
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Simon on November 30, 2009, 12:14
In which case, why should they keep your DNA?
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Rik on November 30, 2009, 13:21
They don't. You can't be arrested if you pass, so they're not allowed to store any DNA. At least, officially.
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Simon on November 30, 2009, 13:25
But that's what I'm saying. How do you know they don't keep the tube you blow into, and get the DNA from that?
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: sam on November 30, 2009, 14:29
But that's what I'm saying. How do you know they don't keep the tube you blow into, and get the DNA from that?

paranoid at all? If the government wanted samples of everyone's DNA they'd have them.. and we probably wouldn't know anything about it.
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Rik on November 30, 2009, 15:56
But that's what I'm saying. How do you know they don't keep the tube you blow into, and get the DNA from that?

I refer my learned friend to reply #6...
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Simon on November 30, 2009, 18:39
You expect me to remember that far back?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Herschel telescope 'fingerprints' colossal star
Post by: Rik on November 30, 2009, 19:03
 ;D