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Title: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 14, 2009, 15:11
A campaign to stop X Factor winner Joe McElderry becoming Christmas number one is gathering pace, according to search figures.
 
Searches for Rage Against The Machine, the band behind 1992 hit Killing In The Name Of, are on the rise according to web-monitoring firm Hitwise.

The reason for the interest is largely due to an online campaign to get the single into the Christmas number one slot ahead of X Factor winner Joe McElderry.

A Facebook group was set up earlier this month to back the campaign and it now boasts more than 715,000 members.

A statement on the group's page reads: "Are you getting fed up about the possibility of another X-Factor Christmas No.1? Us too... so we're going to do something about it!"

Members of the group are instructed to buy the single before Saturday 19 December and the campaign seems to be having an impact, according to Hitwise.

"Searches for the term 'Rage Against The Machine' increased by almost 600 per cent last week, and actually picked up a slightly higher volume than 'Joe McElderry'," said Robin Goad of Hitwise.

Also, the track is currently at the top of the iTunes download chart. X-Factor supremo Simon Cowell has dismissed the campaign as "cynical".

McElderry, an 18-year-old from South Shields, was announced as the winner of this years' X Factor after beating Olly Murs in the final over the weekend.

Nearly 20 million people watched McElderry, hailed as the 'new Cliff Richard', take the title. X Factor winners have dominated the Christmas number one spot for the past five years.



Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 14, 2009, 17:30
The what factor, Clive? ;)
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: sam on December 14, 2009, 17:57
there is also a journey campaign!
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 14, 2009, 17:58
Some people have too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 14, 2009, 21:20
Yes, and they watch the X Factor.  :)x
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 14, 2009, 21:21
 ;D
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 14, 2009, 22:17
On Sunday we went to a carol service with friends - no really!  They came back home with us for a few drinks but asked if they could watch the final of the X Factor since they had been following it from the beginning.  It was hard not to agree with their request so Mrs Clive and I spent a miserable 2 hours watching two blokes who could not sing a note in the right key and camoflaged the fact by using an echo chamber. Yet they were supposed to be the best out of all the hundreds of failures who had been performing in previous weeks.  Simon Cowell kept saying that whoever won last night would have the Christmas number one so it's almost worth buying a copy of rage against the machine to screw him up.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 14, 2009, 23:37
Can someone explain to me what rage against the machine is, please?

Sorry to ask, but I'm not particularly 'hip'.  I recall embarrassing myself here once by asking what a Beyonce was  :blush: .
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: sam on December 14, 2009, 23:46
RATM are not particularly hip... they are a rock band! :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_Against_the_Machine

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Rage Against the Machine (often abbreviated as RATM or Rage)[1] is an American rock band formed during 1991 in Los Angeles, California. ....
The band's debut album, Rage Against the Machine, reached triple platinum status, driven by heavy radio play of the song "Killing in the Name," a heavy, driving track featuring only eight lines of lyrics. The "f*** You" version, which contains 17 iterations of the word f***, was once played on the BBC Radio 1 Top 40 singles show.[9] The album's cover featured Malcolm Browne's Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph of Thích Quảng Đức, a Vietnamese Buddhist monk, burning himself to death in Saigon in 1963 in protest of the murder of Buddhists by the US-backed Prime Minister Ngô Đình Diệm's regime. To promote the album and its core message of social justice and equality, the band went on tour, playing at Lollapalooza 1993 and as support for Suicidal Tendencies in Europe


They are a pretty good band... IMO... but they are probably most famous for  "Killing in the name" which the song people want people to buy.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkuOAY-S6OY

The other suggestion is a song by Journey - but tis just gonna split the buying. I'm sure I'll be logging onto iTunes to buy killing in the name later in the week...
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 15, 2009, 01:10
Thanks Sam :) .

Now I'm wondering how such a band found itself in a Christmas #1 battle, especially against an X Factor winner.

What's going on?  Whatever happened to Slade v Wizzard?  I could understand that  :dunno: .
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: sam on December 15, 2009, 01:49
I don't think they planned to get into the battle.. its just the backlash by fans (big facebook group pushing it now too)
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Sandra on December 15, 2009, 03:07
A campaign to stop X Factor winner Joe McElderry becoming Christmas number one is gathering pace, according to search figures.

At first I was hoping that it was a campaign that I could happily join in with, then I read it fully and realised that it wasnt "A campaign to stop X Factor"  :(
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 15, 2009, 10:56
I recall embarrassing myself here once by asking what a Beyonce was  :blush: .

Wasn't that the backing track to Rubber Ball?
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 18, 2009, 00:26
I've just heard the Rage Against The Machine track.  Bilge - utter bilge.  There's more musicality in an ABBA sound check.  Heck, there's more musicality in the sound of a dentist's drill, and I should know because I had one new filling and a loose filling replaced today.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 18, 2009, 00:34
I have to agree about the RATM track. I heard it when it first came out, and thought it was crap then too!
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 18, 2009, 16:10
I've just heard the Rage Against The Machine track.  Bilge - utter bilge.  There's more musicality in an ABBA sound check.  Heck, there's more musicality in the sound of a dentist's drill, and I should know because I had one new filling and a loose filling replaced today.

But it doesn't matter Gill.  All that matters is that the winner of the X Factor doesn't automatically get to number one.   Simon Cowell believes it is his God-given right.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2009, 16:18
Whatever happened to Cliff having the Xmas no. 1? ;)
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 18, 2009, 16:31
Those were the good old days!   :crazy:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2009, 16:40
 ;D

In some ways...
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 18, 2009, 16:50
But it doesn't matter Gill.  All that matters is that the winner of the X Factor doesn't automatically get to number one.   Simon Cowell believes it is his God-given right.

Sadly, that's the top and bottom of it.  When I was a teenager it was almost (but not quite) prohibitively expensive to fiddle the music charts.  That was because pop music mattered to to so many millions of individuals who bought singles each week and it was a true representation of what is now known as youth culture.  Far fewer singles are now sold and it is relatively easy to influence the charts.  But it doesn't matter because pop music is no longer representative of any part of society, much less youth culture.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2009, 17:08
It's just a music making system, I agree. :(
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 18, 2009, 17:18
Don't you mean money making system Rik?
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2009, 17:20
I do, but I was thinking about all the good music we enjoyed in our youth. :blush:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 18, 2009, 17:52
Bring back Ernie!  (the fastest milkman in the west)  :laugh:  Oh well, suit yourself!  :o:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2009, 18:12
What was that group that used to do a medley of other people's hits each year, with new words?
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 18, 2009, 18:29
Dunno, but all these X-Factor winners seem to sing the same song.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2009, 18:35
The no tune tune, you mean? :)
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 18, 2009, 18:43
The instantly forgettable one.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2009, 18:47
I've forgotten, how does it go again... ;D
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 18, 2009, 19:12
What was that group that used to do a medley of other people's hits each year, with new words?

The Barron Knights (http://www.barronknights.com/)?  Their "A Taste Of Aggro" has to be one of the funniest records ever made.  I was surprised to find they're still on the go - and even better, they're coming soon to a theatre near me :) .

Time for me to 'fess up.  I bought the Ernie CD earlier this year :blush: .  Apart from the title track, there are some other very amusing numbers on the album too.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2009, 19:29
That's them, Gill. Thanks.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 19, 2009, 11:59
The Barron Knights actually imitated the Four Preps who in 1960 made a record called "More Money for You and Me,"  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Preps   :D
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Baz on December 20, 2009, 19:37
RATM  :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:


wish id had a bet on it now
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 20, 2009, 19:43
Funny, haven't heard it on the radio!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Baz on December 20, 2009, 19:47
i have ....edited of course but take a look here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuIa5NoPH9c&feature=topvideos) Simon

if you dont want to listen to the whole interview go to 8mins 58 secs     caught out radio 5  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  as if they didnt know about that bit
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 20, 2009, 20:34
:lol2:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 20, 2009, 21:24
RAGE WON!   (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8423340.stm)  ;D
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 20, 2009, 21:56
:haha:  I heard the edited version with the expletives cut. It was three seconds long.  ;D
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 20, 2009, 23:45
I still think Ernie (The Fastest Milkman In The West) was a better Christmas No 1.  Come to that, so was Mull Of Kintyre.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 21, 2009, 00:38
I have to admit, I think you're right, Gill.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 21, 2009, 09:32
What, no-one voting for Mistletoe and Wine? ;D
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Delgado on December 21, 2009, 09:40
I think Rage is utter Crap!   Unfortunateley this is in keeping with most entertainment today-pure s**t!

Young Joe McElderry worked hard to win X Factor, and is a credit to todays youth. He has a top quality voice, and didnt hit a wrong note in the whole series. It is a pity that he got caught in this battle against Simon Cowell; he didnt deserve it. In my opinion he is the real number one; the other figures were manufactured by online a*****es! Joes figures were mostly purchased copies from shops.

As for Simon Cowell, in my opinion a nasty piece of work. This man relies upon the hopes of youngsters to further enhance his already huge fortune!

 :santa:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Rik on December 21, 2009, 09:43
I wouldn't argue with your last statement.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 21, 2009, 10:29
I quite agree with everything you say, Delgado.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 21, 2009, 14:53
Amen to that Gill.   :D
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: sam on December 21, 2009, 15:45
f*** Joe McElderry... Rage rules!  :devil:

I personally quite like Rage... and to be honest they aren't manufactured, just some of went out and bought the single online (I got mine from play.com for 79p just how much music should be).

Its a proper song, written by proper musicians (though I understand its not to all's tastes - I actually wanted Journey to take it at first), not the fake X-factor culture that is all about getting people to sit in front of a tv listening to utter drivel when they could be out hearing proper, live music.  This just shows that the chavs don't rule the country.  :santa:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 21, 2009, 16:37
I grew up with the likes of The Stranglers, The Clash, Sham 69 and other punk bands before looking at other genres.  I'm quite happy listening to Dean Martin, Shakira, The Arctic Monkeys and Chumbawamba.  In fact, my tastes are so catholic I'll listen to just about anything except hip hop.  It's rare that I dislike a track as much as RATM's offering.

If you want to hear some real anti-capitalist music, I recommend Oysterband or Chumbawamba.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: sam on December 21, 2009, 16:41
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Chumbawamba

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Also its worth remembering that RATM's song was really not aimed at 2009... and they never would have gone for a Christmas No 1. Though I bet they are pretty chuffed.
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Delgado on December 22, 2009, 08:04
f*** Joe McElderry... Rage rules!  :devil:

I personally quite like Rage... and to be honest they aren't manufactured, just some of went out and bought the single online (I got mine from play.com for 79p just how much music should be).

Its a proper song, written by proper musicians (though I understand its not to all's tastes - I actually wanted Journey to take it at first), not the fake X-factor culture that is all about getting people to sit in front of a tv listening to utter drivel when they could be out hearing proper, live music.  This just shows that the chavs don't rule the country.  :santa:


Sorry Sam, as much as I respect you, I disagreee with you entireley.

This young lad, Joe McElderry is a credit to his family and exactly how the young people should aim to be. He his hardworking and cares about his family and friends, and has survived a split between his parents. His voice is superb, and hits the notes everytime.
It is unfair that he is caught in this battle against Simon Cowell. I agree that there is some drivel on the programme, but the last three contestants no way can be called drivel.

I wish him every success.

I cant see many familys sat listening to Rage while having Christmas Lunch!

 :santa: :santa:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: sam on December 22, 2009, 14:27

I cant see many familys sat listening to Rage while having Christmas Lunch!

mine will be...  8-)





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Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Delgado on December 22, 2009, 17:40
We will beg to differ Sam. Enjoy your Christmas Lunch.

Happy Christmas.


 :xmas:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 22, 2009, 18:10
Yes we hope you enjoy your nuts Sam.   :devil:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 22, 2009, 18:16
:lol2:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: sam on December 22, 2009, 19:26
Yes we hope you enjoy your nuts Sam.   :devil:

no nut roasts here!

and indeed... differences is what makes our society great!
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Clive on December 22, 2009, 21:56
Very philosophical Sam! 
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: sam on December 22, 2009, 23:06
must have been all the cheese I had a lunch...
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: GillE on December 22, 2009, 23:33
Has Simon lent you his phone, Sam?

 :devil:
Title: Re: Anti-X Factor campaign searches rise
Post by: Simon on December 22, 2009, 23:39
:haha: