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Title: Messenger
Post by: TR on May 31, 2003, 12:34
Hi Folks

Dont know if this is a problem with anyone else but every now and again while im yakking on MSN MSG a person/persons that are not on my list pops up and asks if I want to see there web site or worse still advertise there Porn sites.

I have disabled Msg in services but I dont know what else to do.

I have fire walls enabled are they coming in on another port somwhere thats not stealthed.

Hookstar
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Robotochan on May 31, 2003, 13:31
Big_Boss and I have both fixed this problem on 2000 and XP. We disabled messenger in the services tab like you said but we have had no more problems after that  :)
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on May 31, 2003, 13:43
Robotchan thanks for the reply, as you can see I have Msg disabled.


Bit confusing isnt it  ???
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Clive on May 31, 2003, 16:26
If it's any consolation Hook, I used to get that all the time with Yahoo Messenger even though I blocked everything that could be blocked.  Yahoo eventually stopped the bots breaking through when they upgraded their software.  It may be a good idea to make sure you are using the latest version of MSN Messenger as Yahoo upgrades their version about every 3 weeks or so and I'm sure MSN probably does the same.
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Simon on May 31, 2003, 16:54
Another way to do it is to go to Tools > Privacy, and move "All Other Users" to the "Blocked" pane.  That way, you only show online to those already in your list of contacts.
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Adept on May 31, 2003, 18:27
Isn't this something to do with port 135 being open?

Go to grc.com and run SheildsUp! This will tell you which ports are open on your PC.
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Simon on May 31, 2003, 18:38
My ports are well and truly stealthed, and I get this on Trillian too.  There's nothing worse than sitting waiting for somebody intelligent to chat to, then all you get is silly old tarts popping up!  

But enough about Sandra and Serenity, those porn things are a nuiscence as well!  (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apax34.dsl.pipex.com%2Fsmileys%2Fevil8.gif&hash=7f361bc325b3813278441f1846e93f6fdfd88a54) (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apax34.dsl.pipex.com%2Fsmileys%2Fevil8.gif&hash=7f361bc325b3813278441f1846e93f6fdfd88a54) (https://www.pc-pals.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apax34.dsl.pipex.com%2Fsmileys%2Fevil8.gif&hash=7f361bc325b3813278441f1846e93f6fdfd88a54)
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on May 31, 2003, 18:52
Adept part 1 on shields up and part II to follow.
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on May 31, 2003, 18:54
Part II  ;D
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on May 31, 2003, 18:59
Also  ;D
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Adept on May 31, 2003, 19:00
Please ignore my previous posts Hookstar. Your PC looks lovely and stealthy to me ;) ;D

I'll get me coat ...
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on May 31, 2003, 19:04
Adept .. wait.........dont rush off yet  ;D what puzzles me is its like a normal messenger call,next time it happens I will screen capture and show you.


Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Simon on May 31, 2003, 19:56
Hook, I think everyone is at risk of getting them, especially using hotmail as your messenger address.  It's like spam.  You don't give out your hotmail address, but they still find it!  I think it's just a question of bad luck that they happen to have found yours (and mine).  The only real solution is to change your messenger address, and use another e-mail address to sign on with.
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on June 01, 2003, 08:40
Simon, I have managed to track one of the critters down and have deleted some of the URL name just in case... you know what clive is like  ;)

Hookstar
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Simon on June 01, 2003, 08:46
Yeah, they're the ones.  As I said, I think it's the messenger equivalent of Hotmail spam.  >:(
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: lobo on June 01, 2003, 09:24
@Hookstar
Download this little program from here and it will solve your problem

h**p://grc.com/stm/ShootTheMessenger.htm

brian ;D
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on June 01, 2003, 10:54
Lobo TY for the link but I'm not sure this will help.. the pop ups are like people have me on there Messenger, but there is no names in the messenger list (does that make sense) ???.

Now if I was to block someone in Messenger list they cant see if I'm on line .. correct, how if they are not showing in my messenger list can they see me ...........God Now I'm getting confused lol  :-\.

As you could see by the screen capture its a normal Messenger chat box and not a pop up Ad.

Hookstar
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Adept on June 01, 2003, 11:19
Lobo, you thought the same as me  8) I think we are confusing Windows/MSN Messenger with the Windows Messaging service in XP, 2000 and NT ::)


Hookstar, if you go into Tool and Options on Messenger you'll see a privacy tab. On my machine I have "All Others" in My Block List. Surely that'll stop these messages from appearing ??? (Yes I know Simon has already said this :P)
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on June 01, 2003, 11:42
Where did that tick box come from  ;D .. will try that and see what happens Adept
 ;)
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Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Simon on June 01, 2003, 13:10
Sean, yes that 'Privacy' thing should work, but isn't this like other Hotmail spam?  You only have to open a Hotmail account, as we all know, to be bombarded with crap, before you've even used your address!  I'm sure that the 'uninvited guests' in Messenger must logically use the same method of detecting (guessing?) Hotmail addresses, to see if they can get a response anywhere.

It is possible to use Messenger without having a Hotmail account (some people don't realise that), and if you have an existing e-mail address which is relatively well protected against spam (by the ISP), could that not be another solution?
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Clive on June 01, 2003, 14:52
Call me an old cynic (and you will)  ;D but I would be very surprised if you can get rid of bots by just clicking a button.
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Sandra on June 01, 2003, 15:49

Call me an old cynic



Welcome to the forum Old Cynic,its always nice to get new members  :)
I hope you dont turn out to be like your twin brother though,(hes a boring old fart at times)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Adept on June 01, 2003, 15:58
I've never had one of these messages in all the time I've been using Messenger (about 2 years I think). Am I just lucky? :D
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Simon on June 01, 2003, 21:40
Hey, Hookstar, this (http://download.com.com/3000-2150-10195045.html?tag=lst-0-6) could be what you're looking for.   :)
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: Clive on June 01, 2003, 21:56
If that works it's worth having!  Yahoo chat was a real pain at one time because I would receive more than one pop-up a minute.  I can only assume that enough people complained about it to force Yahoo to take measures to prevent it happening.  The other nuisance was "chat bombs" where some imbecile would flood the chat room and boot everyone out.  They could even cause your computer to crash.  There are even chat bombs which can cause physical damage to your computer and I know several people who suffered in this way.  At first I didn't really believe it was possible for that to happen but it can.
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on June 01, 2003, 22:35
Looks like Adept was right  ;D so far since I have ticked the box in privacy and so far no Porn sites popping up  ;D  only time will tell.


Hookstar  8)
Title: Re:Messenger
Post by: TR on June 08, 2003, 18:47
Ok looks like its all sorted now.. Adept was right with the tick box in privacy.

Thanks to every one that had an input  :)


Hookstar