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Title: CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 12, 2003, 08:39
Having problems burning cd's on my CD-RW drive. I have always burned cd's using music match jukebox with no problems up until now.

But suddenly its just started producing messed up disks. There is buts of music on there but it jumps about all over the place or has bits of interference.

Tried using different software like Real. But that just says there is an error on the disk. As I've bought brand new disks of more than one brand this cannot be the case.

Any suggestions on what I can start checking?

Cheers in advance.

Mark

 :'(
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: Simon on August 12, 2003, 08:47
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Have you got one of those CD Laser cleaners?  You just pop them in the drive, and they are supposed to clean the laser head, I have to admit, with varying degrees of success.

Other than that, have you access to another CD-RW drive you could try?  I'm not saying this for definite, but possibly your drive could be on the way out.   :(

One of our 'proper' techies may be able to give you more advice later.   ;)
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: Sandra on August 12, 2003, 13:09
Have you tried a SIMULATED burn or had it VERIFY after burning Pictec ?
Are you burning off the hard drive or copying CD to CD ?
Does it happen with just one method or both ?

Have you tried burning at a slower speed to see if this rectifies it ?
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 12, 2003, 14:56
Simulated burns work fine.

It is hard drive to cd. Haven't tried cd to cd in a while. I'll give it go tonight.

Tried burning at lower speeds. No affect.

Haven't tried a laser cleaner. But if it was that wouldn't it have problems reading cd's as well? And it has no trouble reading stuff.

Mark


Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: Sandra on August 12, 2003, 14:59
Do you get a buffer underrun at any time while it burns or does everything appear normal and say its been successful at the end of the burn ?
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 12, 2003, 16:05
Depends which software I'm running. One piece of software runs though ok and says its successful. Real on the other hand fails on the first trcak complaining of a disk error.

Mark
:o
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 13, 2003, 08:25
OK. Lst night I tried doing a cd to cd copy. Didn't even get past the read stage or the original cd. Just sat the all nite trying to do the read but stuck on the 12% mark of one of the tracks. Didn't give an error though. Just ended up cancelling it.

This narrow the possibilities down?

Mark

  :(
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: Sandra on August 13, 2003, 13:08
It seems unlikely that both burning programs have got corrupted,although there is always that possibility.
Have you got an almost full hard drive by any chance?
I am wondering if its running out of space for the swap file or similar.
Failing that it does look as if the writer has developed a fault.
Maybe you could try using a different burning program such as Nero  ???
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: joudi on August 13, 2003, 15:00
Hi Pictec,

     Don't worry Pictec, you are between good hands (Sandra's). But just a small question:

     Although you have entitled this topic "CD-RW problem", permit me to ask whether the CD to which you want to transfer and burn music Is CD-R  Or  CD-RW?

    I read once that it is not adviced to burn music on CD-RW.  So, does your problem happen also on CD-R?
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 13, 2003, 20:23
Actually I am using CD-R. Makes no odds.

Downloaded a trial version of nero and gave it a go. Appeared to work. But when I tried to play the disk nothing coame out.

As for my hard drive....its two thirds full.

Use 8.2G. Free 5G. I've tried cleaning things up by removing lots of junk using regcleaner.

Mark

  :o
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 16, 2003, 12:10

Well, I have now checked the inside of the tower to make sure all the wires and stuff are still fitted. All ok.

So I am now completely stuck. Any one with any final suggestions?

Mark

 :-[
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: Dack on August 16, 2003, 12:32
A burn with verify - what did that give you?

A simulated burn would just check the HD to writer transfer speed and would not actually check the capability to write to disc.

How old is the drive - it may just be that the laser is on its way out (as the power to burn is less than that needed to read the disc this would be why you can read but not write correctly). As you have now got problems reading then it would point towards that.

Trying a drive cleaner may be a quick fix but it sounds as if the drive is on its last legs :(
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: lobo on August 16, 2003, 21:02
@pictec
Hi m8, what kind of files are you burning to CD-R, are they MP3s converting to CDA or some other format?

Brian ;D
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: WhiteDevil on August 17, 2003, 10:51
ive been having a bit of trouble at the moment playing MP3s, they sound really scratchy in places, but in others they are perfect... Play the MP3s, (or whatever) and check that they are ok, if they are, i suggest getting a new burner  8)
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: ketamininja on August 18, 2003, 14:30
There are some essential files from Windows itself that I believe are used in a burning process. Are you using XP? XP has its own built in recording software, which could be conflicting...

I'm afraid that you maybe have a duff drive otherwise :(
I hate those answers, don't you?  :o
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 20, 2003, 17:59
I'm using windows 95. Any files I should be checking for that? Fairly old pc and drive.

I have also tried using a drive cleaner. No effect. I guess the cd burner is just on the way out.

Looks like I need to get myself a new one.

Mark

 :'(
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: ketamininja on August 21, 2003, 12:32
You could try getting the latest ASPI drivers.
Uh,  haven't worked with them for a while, but if I remember correctly that could help... do a search on google for ASPI drivers for 95.
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 21, 2003, 13:30
Actually I meant 98. Will give it a try though.

Cheers

Mark
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: Sandra on August 21, 2003, 13:33
I dont know if there are any firmware updates for your CD Writer but they may help  ???
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: greenking on August 21, 2003, 18:23
You have checked that it's not just a bad batch of blank cd's you have Mark  ;D
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: lobo on August 21, 2003, 18:24
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Simulated burns work fine.


CD write no good

CD-R faulty, if its a couple of years old could be a faulty laser

try in another PC if possiable, and then buy a new one you can get one for the price of a couple of dozen blank CDs

Brian ;D
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: Simon on August 21, 2003, 18:40
Yes, you can easily pick up a new CD-RW for under £30 - for example, take a look at this page (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd3N1YmNhdGVnb3J5X3BhZ2U=&subcat_uid=124), from ebuyer.
Title: Re:CD-RW Problems - ANy Suggestions
Post by: pictec on August 22, 2003, 14:41
Useful page. Will buy a new drive when my next pay check is in next week.

Just done a further test of the drive by downloading the diagnostics program BurnInTest. Get the following error message on the cd drive:

CDROM, D:Error while searching for files on data CD/D
CDROM, Path: D:\*.*, Cycle:0, Error Code 21

Don't know if that gives anyone any ideas.

Mark