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Technical Help & Discussion => Self Building, Upgrading & General Hardware Help => Topic started by: Dominic on August 30, 2003, 19:56

Title: Another Prob :/
Post by: Dominic on August 30, 2003, 19:56: Booted up pc, said Checksum Error, load default, press f1 to continue, pc works not sure why i had that error tho, anyone?
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Post by: Adept on August 30, 2003, 20:04: It means that some of the CMOS settings in your BIOS have become corrupt.

The corrupt settings will have been changed back to their default values.
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Post by: Dack on August 31, 2003, 13:08: Usually down to dead/dieing battery on the motherboard - check your clock in the bios and see if that has been reset.
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 18:10: Yer the time and date did go funny too, also if u read this forum post http://pc-pals.com/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=5778 im having same probs, could it be all down to battery?
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Post by: lobo on August 31, 2003, 19:46: @Dominic
Change the battery but check the BIOS settings and make a record of them first

Brian ;D
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 19:50: Is changing battery easy? also could this be the fault of my pc shut down on first boots?
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Post by: lobo on August 31, 2003, 19:54: @Dominic
Yes to both questions my friend, the battery is a small round silver object situated on the motherboard and it just clips out, clip the new one into place and boot the PC

Brian ;D
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Post by: Simon on August 31, 2003, 20:02: Do these batteries have an estimated lifespan Brian?
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 20:17: So this could be the cause of the first boot crashes? also is there different types of batteries or they all the same?
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 20:20: Also after say 15 mins of crashing, pc will stay on, so could this still mean its battery? i disabled quick boot in bios and it checks the ram, ide's devices fine.
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Post by: Dack on August 31, 2003, 20:26: Quote from: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 20:17

So this could be the cause of the first boot crashes? also is there different types of batteries or they all the same?

Possibly - do you have the same motherboard and power supply as the link?

It COULD be whats causing your start up problem but one problem at a time :)

Usually these days the battery is a 2032 (a small disc 20mm wide by 3.2mm thick)and should cost £1 to £2
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 20:33: It's not the PSU, i thought it was that once, so i replaced, same error.
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Post by: joudi on August 31, 2003, 20:45: Hi Dominic,

It's a celle batterie like the one inside your watch but bigger. You open your computer and you will see it on the motherboard as they said to you, silver round 20 mm diameter. take it off and show it to the sailerman to give you another with the same number written on it. It's 3 volt batterie.
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 20:58: I see it, can removing it mess anything up? I've heard some nasty storys about them :/
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Post by: joudi on August 31, 2003, 21:03: I have never changed mine. I didn't hear anything risky for doing that.

My opinion, put you PC off and take it off. I don't see any risk in doing so.
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 21:06: Thing is my mb is only 3 month's old, don't see how the battery could go, but if it is dead how does my PC stay on after like 10 mins of crashing?
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Post by: joudi on August 31, 2003, 21:15: Well, personally, I'm not telling you that the problem is coming from the batterie. I'm telling you how to find and change it. But if the Mobo is 3 months old I'm not sure that the problem is coming from the batterie. It's a matter between you and the proffessionals of the forum. Me, I don't have that experience.
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Post by: Sandra on August 31, 2003, 22:05: The battery just stores the CMOS information that you can change in the BIOS settings Dominic.
If its faulty or running low on power then it doesnt hold the information for when you swicth the PC on.
By removing it for a short period it shouldnt alter anything,if it was left out for a few days then it may lose the CMOS settings which wouldnt matter too match as you could go into the BIOS on startup and load BIOS defaults :doggie:
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 23:58: "If its faulty or running low on power then it doesnt hold the information for when you swicth the PC on."

Can that cause the crash's?
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Post by: Dominic on August 31, 2003, 23:59: As sometimes i switch on, pc fan's etc start .. just dont boot stays on black screen. :(
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Post by: Sandra on September 01, 2003, 00:31: It can be the cause of it not booting into windows but that wouldnt explain it booting into windoes on subsequent attempts ???
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Post by: Dominic on September 01, 2003, 11:43: Doesnt do subsequent attempts, just crashes on a few few first boots.
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Post by: Sandra on September 01, 2003, 14:12: Its looking very like it Dominic.
If you go into BIOS and tell it to load BIOS defaults it should then boot into windows and run ok until the next time that you close down.
It sounds like the battery is faulty,so if it boots up after loading BIOS defaults then a new battery should cure it.
You will have to go into BIOS again and load BIOS defaults when you have the new battery installed one more time and then hopefully it will run ok from then on :doggie:
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Post by: Dominic on September 01, 2003, 23:10: Dunno if this helps, but sometimes when it crash's goes to black screen, i hold down the power button to switch of, and it does a beep, then gets dim like beeeeeeppp, till powers off.
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Post by: Sandra on September 01, 2003, 23:29: I think we are at crossed purposes here Dominic.
You said it didnt boot into windows,then you say it crashes.
Can you clarify this as most people talk about a PC crashing after it has been running in windows ::)
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Post by: Dominic on September 01, 2003, 23:56: It does both, sometimes it boots in, then crashes, then after that, try turning power of then on and it does nowt.