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Technical Help & Discussion => Website Design & Programming => Topic started by: Clive on September 18, 2003, 16:48

Title: Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 18, 2003, 16:48
A recent issue of Computeractive magazine recommended Webcreator 2 which I was thinking of buying for £20 to make a website for a local astronomical society.  What has just put me off is that it says "Integrated FTP toll to get your pages online" and I wonder if that means you have to pay them to act as webhosts?  I already have a large amount of webspace available with my ISP so I would not be happy having to pay a third party.

http://www.mindscape.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?pid=355
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Simon on September 18, 2003, 17:08
It seems to be included as a 'feature' Clive.  My interpretation is that it would be optional, and you should be able to use any FTP client, and any webspace you like, but it might be worth checking out.  Why don't you download the trial version first, and see if it's suitable?
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 18, 2003, 17:14
Thanks for the clarification.  I think I might do that.  I can also download the full software but I prefer to have the original CD for obvious reasons.
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 27, 2003, 16:13
I've received and installed Webcreator 2 and I'm sure that nobody will be surprised to learn that I am having difficulties with it.  ;D

So I've chosen a nice template from the supplied catalogue and inserted a nice background picture.

I've got my heading sorted out and 7 buttons all labelled to link to other pages.  The problem is that the links don't appear to work.

Let's start with the easiest first - that is the "contact us" link which is set up to my e-mail address.  What have I messed up?   ;D

Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Adept on September 27, 2003, 17:26
It looks OK to me Clive ???

The mistake most people make is putting a space between the mailto: and the email address, but you don't seem to have done that.

Does anything happen at all when you click the link?
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Sandra on September 27, 2003, 17:29
Have you clicked on "Send an e mail" and clicked OK Clive ?
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 27, 2003, 17:32
Absolutely nothing at all.  The button indicates that it is being clicked but then nothing happens.   :'(  I've also constructed a secondary page for the "meetings" button and that won't work either.
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 27, 2003, 17:33
Yes, I've done that Sandra.  My only hope was that I had linked it wrongly to the home page.
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Sandra on September 27, 2003, 17:36
Maybe it needs  a time in Clive ?
Try it at 1 second  ???
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Adept on September 27, 2003, 17:39
Is this from within your browser or the Webcreator software Clive?

You'll probably find the links won't work until you  test the site in a real browser.

Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 27, 2003, 21:20
I tried setting it to 1 second but to no avail Sandra.

It was from within Webcreator Adept.  OK then, I'll continue building the website to gain experience and then try getting it online to see if it works.
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Adept on September 27, 2003, 21:22
You must be saving the site somewhere on your hard drive Clive.

Just use file|open in IE to open your index.htm file.
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 27, 2003, 21:38
Where things are stored on my hard drive has always been a complete mystery to me Adept.   ;D
However, I found it and did as you suggested, but the button still refuses to call up the page.
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Adept on September 27, 2003, 21:41
Send me the file via email Clive.
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 27, 2003, 21:54
It's on its way.   ;D
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Adept on September 27, 2003, 23:20
Well, after some to-ing and fro-ing with various files, I finally got the correct file (I think).

Strangely, the entire page is made up of Javascript rather that HTML, but as far as I can see, it should open a mailto email form as expected.

I don't know much about Webcreator, but if it creates all of its web pages as Javasript, it's not going to be particularly compatible with a wide range of browsers.

I suggested to Clive that he may want to find a better tool to work with, such as CoffeeCup or even Microsoft FrontPage :-\
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Clive on September 27, 2003, 23:32
So you think I should abandon Webcreator 2 in favour of something else?   :-\
Title: Re:Webcreator 2
Post by: Adept on September 27, 2003, 23:37
It may be easy to use, but the code it produces (from the evidence you've shown me at least) appears to be very poor.

It's rather like using Microsoft Word to create a website. It can be done and it's quite easy to do, but the code it produces is horrendous :o