I don't disagree with that. I've had several amps / receivers since getting into DVDs and surround sound, and none can match the sound I got from my old Pioneer system. I think it's also because they are trying to be do too much, and be everything in one box. Stereo CDs sound sh*t through most AV amps, but most people haven't got the room, let alone the money, for separate amps and speakers, so go for the all in one option.