Worth checking out:
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=30;t=003047;p=1

For temperature increases etc.

Newest Bartons don't overclock as well but the usual increase people are getting is about 195 instead of 166 (or just under an XP3200+ speed).

On the one I've got here I simply changed the FSB to 200 to start with - that worked (for a bit) but then I started getting lockups so downclocked it a bit.

Why do some Motherboard manufactures put the Case fan connecter at the front bottom side on the MOBO, when invariably the fan is positioned rear nearer the top on the case   >

That's exactly the trouble I had with an Asus mobo, but as AsRock are made by Asus, I suppose that's not surprising.  I imagine they expect you to put the fan in the front of the case, but if you did, where would you plug in a rear fan if you also wanted one?  Only having one case fan connector (and in the wrong place), is a real let down, on an otherwise good value mobo, in my opinion.

Have I deposed Simon as  ?The Most Awkward CCL Customer?  


It all started with a phone call to CCL last Thursday, regarding my order  scheduled for Friday delivery, as I had noticed the graphics card according to their website had gone out of stock. I was told they would be back in stock that day.

Anyway, Friday I notice  graphics is indeed in stock, but the monitor has gone OS. So Monday, as I do not received a dispatch consignment note via email from CCL  I decided to phone them.

Anyway I queued for a while and then get disconnected before getting hold of a human, don?t you just  hate it when that happens. OK I?ll email them:


Hi there,

I have an order No: 32*****, scheduled for delivery last Friday. I rang Thursday and was told the graphics card was OS but expected in that day. Friday I noticed online it was marked as in stock, and then I noticed the monitor had reverted to OS. Question is, was a monitor allocated to my order, and when will the order be dispatched.

No reply came the answer, not even a read receipt, so in the afternoon I?m back on the phone again, After queuing I finally get a sales advisor called Phillip,

Me: Hi Philip I?m chasing order No 32*****

Philip: It?s awaiting a graphics card

Me: No it?s not..........

Philip: Oh your right it?s been picked.

Me: Eh!!!!! Will it be  dispatched to day

Philip: Donno, it?s out of our hands, carrier you see.

Me: Will you issue a dispatch note if you do dispatch

Philip: No, we don?t do that anymore

Me: Eh !!! you used to

Philip: I know, but not any more
 
Me: Eh !!! You mean I dare not leave the house for a week in case my order is on a van???

Philip: Ring the carriers

Me: Yer right, without a consignment number, they will think I?m nuts!!!!!!!!

Philip: MMM proburbly, I know it sounds silly doesn?t it , but I don?t usually do this job.

Me: Phillip, ?  your dicking me ? right? You have not allocated me a monitor, and now you dare not tell me. Tell me the truth, least ways I can leave the house tomorrow.

Philip: No your order has been picked, ready for dispatch.

Me: But you first said it was waiting for a graphics card , then a miracle happens so the more you say the more I?m losing  confidence in what you?re saying .

Philip: No it?s picked.

Phone down, I have a cunning plan, I ring a mate. Michael your 15 mins from CCL, do us a favor, if I can arrange for you to pick up my order, it will force CCL?s  hand, sorted.

Me: Hi Philip, I have a mate??..

Philip: Donno about that, hold a mo??.You best ring customer services ??I?m customer sales.

Bollacks, phone down

Customer Services here:

HI Wassem,  the story so far???

Wassem: put the story in writing or an email, as the  boss?s won?t believe me.

Me: I bloody did??.

Wassem: Oh leave it with me I?ll ring you back about dispatch, because if it is picked it will be in the ?dispatch cage? cannot get it out for pickup by your mate

An hour later, how long does it take to confirm an order is ready.

Me: Hi Neil,  I?m awaiting a call from Wassem?.

Neil: Wassem is sat next to me,  I?ll sort it for you

Ring Ring, Hello

Wassem: Why you ring, I said I?d ring you

Me: Yes but you didn?t, well now your on the phone, have you sorted it,

Wassem: No, but I will, even if I have to stay till 7 0?clock tonight.

Me: What?s so hard about ascertaining if the order is picked or not, caged or not?

Wassem: I?m not allowed to leave my desk, so if my internal emails are not answered???.

So come 5 o?clock, it?s time to email Wassem again


Hi Wassem,

sorry if I spelt your name wrong , anyway here is the copy of the email you requested.

The wife works in Hewlett Packhard customer support, and you know what, you sound just like one of her co workers, Imran.

Charm the birds out of the tree's he does, so failing dispatch of  my order, I'd like to have your babies.  But seeing as I'm a bloke,  I say that safe in the knowledge that either the dispatch of my order Monday, or my conception, are two miracles even beyond your undoubted abilities.

Well I dare say, dealing with Dabs won?t be half as entertaining as conversing with CCL, but I dare say I'll just have to except their next day delivery  as compensation.

All the best,

Tony


5.54pm I get an answer phone message

Wassem here, your order is dispatch, this is the consignment number, and here is the carrier?s local depot phone number. Hope to speak to you soon.

I check the carriers website, and yes it was picked up by the carrier and due for delivery today.

So you see miracles can and do happen, but I cannot help but think, having one of Wassem?s babies may have been the easier option.


And I cannot help but feel there is a problem somewhere in the system that needs rectifying..........anyone seen Phillip ?

Beat that Simon  

PS: In the interest's of fairness I must state that I have had four seperate orders from CCL Computers via their online  website. And this last one was the only one that did not come up to expectations. Will I still use them as my first choice supplier.........YES....as Wassem pulled it out of the fire for them at the last very last minute.

Oh dear trouble at the mill,

when I switch the PC on, it runs for a few seconds, I mean a few seconds as in about "four" then it dies. So I have disconnected "everything" one at a time. Only when I removed the CPU does it not cut out.

Now I'm glad those AsRock boards are not expensive, since after removing the heatsink and fan, I noticed that part of the plastic lugs that the heatsink clip anchores on to have broken. Now I don't know if it was my hamfistedness installing the HS or taking it off?

Question is, is/was the CPU faulty from the start, or if the HS was not sat firmly on the CPU, would the temp cutout on the MOBo work that fast, and reset with in seconds. Anyway another board on the way from Dabs.

Advice regards the above will be appreciated from the experts.    

 

Off to the Daughters for tea, I expect to see loads of advice when I get back  

Now I'm glad those AsRock boards are not expensive, since after removing the heatsink and fan, I noticed that part of the plastic lugs that the heatsink clip anchores on to have broken.

I wonder if that's one of the corners they cut to keep the cost of the boards down?  Can you not return it to Dabs as faulty?  How do you know that lug wasn't weak when you got it?  As far as cutting out quickly goes, my guess would also be that the problem was in the seating of the CPU / Heatsink / Fan collaboration.  By cutting out quickly, it may hopefully have saved the CPU from damage, which is, after all, what it's supposed to do.

Anyway, that's my two pennath -- now back to the expert, when he's finished stuffing his face!

 

Cheers matey's,

It's all part of the learning curve, must admit I did seem to struggle a bit installing the HS, i tried doing it with the board in situ just to see if it could be done. In the end I took the board out of the case, but it seemed OK, when i clipped it into place. I mean I'm hopeing it was me being clumsy installing the HS, or it means it's something else. And I just knackered a good board when I took the HS off, two of the lugs where hanging on so to speak, how good is superglue  

Whilst I was driving over to the Daughters, I thought.... PSU, Ok it's only a 300watt, that's the only PSU they do with that case. Their whole range have 300watt PSU's, I cannot see them limiting there salebility by having a PSU in that wont run current CPU's. I mean surely it should run the mobo and CPU and a case fan?  I've been looking on the AMD site but found nowt yet.  To be honest I thought I know what Sandra's going to say.

Simon, I think the CPU socket is a bog standard socket used be many mobo makers.

now then on going to this site http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/ link by dreddg99 [cheers] everything up and running it reckons I need minimum 336 watts. But like I said, nothing but the mobo, cpu, keybboard and mouse, case fan, CPU fan, the ready reckoner adds that lot up to  167 watts. So 300watt should have eat it.  All be it that a bigger PSU is proburbly needed.

Where is the best place online for PSU's [fast]

Tony, Iv'e just calculated for my new case that I'm getting and I might need to up the PSU  

Same here

Mine came to 422W but I only have a 350W power supply and it seems to be OK.