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Offline TR

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« on: August 21, 2004, 16:10 »
Ok folks not long to go now before BB (Sept 1st) Need some advice please, what is the best (cheapest) BB router to get or should I pay the £60 my ISP is offering on a ASDL Router, I have seen some on Ebuyer Here do you think this one would be ok? like I said I need some good advice off you experienced BBers.


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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2004, 16:13 »
The one on Ebuyer is just a modem (for one machine), whereas the ADSL Router your ISP is offering, is to connect several machines.  Depends what you need, Hook.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2004, 16:23 »
Are you sure your ISP is offering you a router Hook?  £60 seems very cheap to me.  I think Sandra bought a good one, and more to the point knows how to set it uo.   ;D

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2004, 16:34 »
Have now just looked at the ISP set up and they Quote.

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Standard USB External Modem £49.99

This is an industry approved USB plug and play modem which comes with all the relevant cables and software which will make your first experience a good one. This modem is ideal for the home user only needing fast internet access on one PC.This modem is ideal for people requiring a low-cost, easy-to-install modem for use with a PC or Mac. It works in the same way as traditional modems using a Windows dial-up connection. Spare USB port required. Also included is one line filter.
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Have found another one here

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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2004, 16:42 »
That's an incredible price Hook.   8)  I'd see if you can find any user comments about it before you buy.

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2004, 18:33 »
Unless I'm reading the description wrong you would still need a modem as well as the router.
Think you would be better going for a router and built in router. where's Sandra when you need her ;D
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2004, 20:19 »
I've only ever used one modem, which is the Fujitsu which came free when I signed up for Pipex.  I know nothing about them technically, but I've always found the user reviews fairly helpful on Ebuyer.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2004, 22:30 »
Here's the one I use.  You'll need an ethernet card with it, but that will save a USB port and CPU resource.  It's my 3rd ADSL modem and the best yet, while also being the cheapest!  It's an absolute piece of cake to set up and definitely the dog's danglies.  Note the price.  This modem is currently obtainable from the shop next door to Rod's place.



Description:  4 Port MR4A ADSL Modem/Router

Product Information:  External ADSL Modem/Router for use on BT Telephone Lines ONLY

    * Features:
          o ANSI T1.413 Issue 2, ITU-T G.992.1 (G.dmt), G.992.2 (G.lite) compliant for Annex A
          o ITU-T G.992.1 (G.lite) Annex B/ ETSI TS 101 388/ DTS TM-06006 for Annex B (ETSI)
          o ITU-T G.992.1 Annex B - Deutsch Telecom/ U-R2 for Annex B (U-R2)
          o Full rate transmission at up to 8Mbps downstream and 640Kbps upstream
    * IP sharing:
          o share a single IP account within your entire network via NAT routing way
          o Enhanced Firewall function to log attacker's IP address and protocol type
          o Reaches up to 18K feet in distance
          o Enhanced management features to monitor all the incoming and outgoing packets and also restrict user's routing path
          o DMZ and Port forwarding function provided
          o Configuration and management operated via Web browser, Telnet server
          o Operating modes include:
                + Routing
                + Bridge
                + Static IP plus NAT
                + PPPoE plus NAT
                + PPPoA plus NAT
    * ADSL Features:
          o Compatible with all leading DSLAMs
          o Support DMT line modulation
          o Support Full Rate ADSL:
                + up to 8Mbps downstream
                + up to 1Mbps upstream
          o Support ITU-T G.992.1 Annex A & T1.413 Issue 2 for Annex A
          o Support ITU-T G.992.1(G.dmt) Annex B/ ETSI TS 101 388/DTS TM-06006 for Annex B
          o Support ITU-T G.992.1 Annex B - Deutsch Telecom / U-R2 for Annex B (U-R2)
          o Support G.Lite ADSL
                + up to 1.5Mbps downstream
                + Up to 512Kbps upstream (G.992.2)
          o Support DSL handshaking (G.994.1)
    * ATM Features :
          o RFC-1483 Encapsulation
                + LLC & VC multiplexing
                + IP
                + Bridging
                + Encapsulated routing
          o PPP over ATM (RFC-2364)
          o Classical IP (RFC-1577)
          o Traffic shaping (UBR)
          o PPP over Ethernet client (RFC-2516)
    * Management Features:
          o Plug & Play installation
          o Local & Remote management
          o Web-based configuration
          o Telnet configuration
          o Command line interface
          o Firmware upload/download via TFTP
          o Alarm status & Power indicators
          o Event & History logging (option)
          o Network ping
          o SNMP support (option)
    * Physical Interfaces:
          o ADSL modem/router with four RJ-45 10/100 Base-T Ethernet port & one ADSL port
          o ADSL Status, Power and Switching Hub LED Indicators
    * Routing Features:
          o TCP/ IP with RIP v1 & v2
          o Static Routing
          o Internet Access: Minimum
          o TCP/IP
          o UDP
          o ICMP
          o ARP
          o RARP
          o DHCP
          o NAT (Network Address Translation) for IP sharing
    * System Requirements:
          o Any computer with an Ethernet 10/ 100 Base-T interface
          o Any operating system that supports and Ethernet connection with an IP stack
    * Security Features:
          o Password protected configuration access
          o User authentication (PAP/ CHAP) with PPP firewall: NAT & NAPT
    * LAN Features:
          o DHCP
          o DNS Relay (option)
          o IP Multicast
    * DSLAM Compatibility:
          o Interoperable with:
                + 3Com
                + ADI
                + Alcatel
                + Anymedia
                + Centillium
                + Cisco
                + Compaq
                + Conexant
                + Copper Mountain
                + ECI
                + Efficient
                + Globespan
                + Intel
                + Lucent
                + Motorola
                + Newbridge
                + NLC
                + Nokia
                + Nortel
                + Pairgain
                + Samsung
                + Texas Instruments
    * Regulatory Approvals:
          o FCC Part 15 class B & part 68
          o CE mark

Price
£49.00 £41.70 Ex VAT

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Re:BB soon
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2004, 00:14 »
That one looks like the non wireless version of the Wi Fi one that me and Adept got Rodders.
They came from ebuyer but were unbranded, they just had a model no of AWR-51 or something like that, I think mine was around £80 but some jammy welsh git bought his a few months later after they had stopped stocking that model and he got one from the bargain basement for a lot less  ::)
Even if you arent thinking of networking or sharing your connection at the moment Hooky, a combined adsl modem router seems to be a better and more reliable thing to have than a USB modem, especially when connected by ethernet which most seem to have as standard with an option for usb sometimes.
If you are thinking of getting a laptop at somepoint in the future then also consider paying a little more and getting a Wi Fi enabled one.
This seems to be one of the cheapest 4 port adsl modem/routers around at the moment and it seems to get good reviews from ebuyer customers if you decide against wi fi at this time, it must be good as theres a waiting list for it so depending how soon you get enabled it may not do for you  :(

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48449

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2004, 01:55 »
This one seems to get decent reviews on the whole and has wireless as well, albeit the slower 11mbs connection than the later 54mbs but for ADSL it will be more than adequate for a lot of years to come on the wi fi side, just a bit slower if you are transferring files over wi fi between pcs/laptops etc.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=56082

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2004, 09:04 »
This is the one on Offer with my ISP.

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CopperJet 800-USB
USB-bus powered ADSL modem

The CopperJet 800 is an ADSL modem based on G.dmt ADSL Annex A technology designed to address the high-speed delivery of a large amounts of data through regular copper phone wires.

This modem is an active solution, being powerful enough to run the connection protocol stacks, SAR and ADSL USB interface in the unit, not on the PC. In turn this yields a very high performance and robust device.

The CopperJet 800 is very user friendly and highly interoperable ADSL modem. It is therefore extremely suited for the consumer market. The CopperJet 800 has proven to be interoperable with all major Annex A third party DSLAMs making it a very cost effective solution for those users who demand a reliable USB bus-powered ADSL modem.

 
 
Modem Specification
ADSL modem; ADSL G.dmt Annex A; USB bus-powered; User friendly Installation Wizard;
High performance ADSL connection; Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 and WP support

 


Its all soooo confusing  :-\

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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2004, 12:17 »
No contest really is it Hooky ?
Supplied crappy USB modem only for £60 from your ISP versus a 4 port wi fi enabled modem/router for £52.87 inc VAT plus postage from ebuyer from my previous post  ???

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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2004, 12:48 »
All signed up for BB now have to wait 10 days to have BT activate the line :( more waiting

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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2004, 13:14 »
So which did you end up going for Hooky, a modem or a router  ???

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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2004, 21:54 »

So which did you end up going for Hooky, a modem or a router  ???


Dont know yet lol.... probably a router ? finance dictates at the moment with building the new computer  8)


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