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Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« on: January 03, 2008, 19:18 »
Hi Everyone,
Firstly Happy New Year to you all.

I have just installed Diskeeper 2008 and have defragmented my drives.
It has come up with Heavy Fragmented Problems
The Volume is Heavily fragmented
View most fragmented files

What does all this mean???????

Can someone explain to me exactly what this means I have googled this, but found nothing that appertains to this or that I understand


Thanks

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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2008, 20:34 »
What it's saying is that your drive is a mess!  ;)  It basically means that bits and pieces of data are scattered all over the drive, which need to be pieced together each time an action is performed, or a file is accessed on the drive.  This is caused by adding and removing data over a period of time, which everybody does.  The act of 'defragmenting' or 'defragging', is supposed to tidy up the drive, so that data is more easily accessible, and therefore the drive runs more efficiently, theoretically improving the performance of your system.

Personally, I have mixed feelings about Diskeeper.  I ran it for a while, admittedly the 2006 version, but found that it was constantly defragging, and this itself was impacting on performance.  I wasn't convinced that it was having much of a positive effect, so I uninstalled it.  People have different opinions, so do wait for some more responses.  Some people think that Windows XP is efficient enough that defragging isn't essential, and some think that constant defragging can actually shorten the life span of the drive.  Some people swear by Diskeeper and wouldn't be without it, so I guess it's each to their own.  :)
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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 21:21 »
i never defrag now.. but then again most of my disk use ntfs and ext3 systems (with journalling)...
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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2008, 22:58 »
I used to defrag every 3 months but now I only do it every 6 months or so.

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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2008, 00:46 »
I defrag quite regularly, but I won't use Diskeeper - it loves to paint an alarming picture of what is a perfectly normal state for a hard drive.

I use Raxco's Perfect Disk, which will run through my 80GB system drive in about five minutes (without unduly impacting performance), and which will handle one of my 750GB data drives in about eight or nine minutes.
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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2008, 09:06 »
oooo  that sounds good Rik. do you have a link for it

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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2008, 09:35 »
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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2008, 21:13 »
Well folks I don't have a Hard Drive Anymore to Defrag, it went down last night I think it has something to do with Diskeeper it just went  :bawl:
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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2008, 22:29 »
 :oops:  What actually happened, Kaz?
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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2008, 10:26 »
Well Im not really sure I decided to not use the Diskeeper so I went to a backup of the day before I installed it and half way through the re-install it said Failed couldn't find drive of something like that so I stop it and re booted to a blank screen nothing no Icons so I re tried my backup again from another previous back up went through it all and it said installation successful I though great the last back up must have been corrupt (I do a check on the backups to make sure that they are ok) so went to reboot and Nothing again! so I got my XP installation cd and repair XP it did it in a fashion there was No C drive how the hell that worked I don't know where is Windows running from? no E drive No J drive and all my Icons on my desktop said drive missing the file you are looking for are on another drive Yes drive C and there isn't one ??? , well it's gone of to the PC Doctor it's a new 500g drive as you know only had it put in a few months ago and had a few teething problems then if you recall? Im so glad I have my Laptop it's like my right arm wouldn't be without it and Iv just spent £100 on an 750g external hard drive  oh well Ill let you now what happens

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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 15:40 »
Ok good news Hard Drive is ok  :)

Bad news well not so bad Drive Partitions had been deleted???????????????????????????????  Don't ask I have NO IDEA how that has happened :believe: :not: So I have had the Drives put back (I must learn how to use Partition Magic) cost me £20 for that and now I am reinstalling backups onto drives Now this is where I find out just how good Acronis is, but I must say it hasn't let me down yet (but I have never been in this position in loosing ALL my data)  got a few hours to go yet will keep you informed think ill go and have a brew :beach:

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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 16:09 »
If I recall correctly, you have an 'unusual' method of removing unwanted programs by reverting to a back up copy of Windows, Kaz.  Did you use this method to remove Diskeeper, without using the normal Add / Remove uninstall facility?
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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 16:40 »
Yes I did Simon

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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 17:49 »
Sorry, but I wouldn't mind betting that's what caused the missing partitions.   :-\
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Re: Heavy Fragmentation Problems What Does This Mean?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 18:02 »
Why would that be then?
Because if that's that case surely you would have to uninstall from the Add & Remove Facility every piece of software every time before you go back to a previous backup, or am I missing something here?

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