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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2009, 11:02 »
You could try downloading Routerstats and seeing if that can get to the data, Clive.

http://www.vwlowen.co.uk/internet/files.htm
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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2009, 17:42 »
I have figures for you Rik.   All meaningless to me!  :D

DSL Connection 

Link Information
   
 
Uptime: 1 day, 0:57:42
 
Modulation: G.992.1 annex A
 
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 5,792
 
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 20.82 / 69.70
 
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 19.5
 
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 25.0 / 41.0
 
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 24.0 / 9.5
 
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ALCB
 
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
 
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 86 / 0
 
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
 
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
 
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 788 / 0
 
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 52,472,928
 
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 362
 
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 274
 
Line Profile: Interleaved
 
 

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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2009, 18:15 »
Not sure if Rik will be back in tonight, Clive, and he's away for the whole day tomorrow!  :horror:
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2009, 18:48 »
Those figures look healthy enough, Clive, you should be on a 5Mbps profile, for your attenuation and margin, that's about right. It looks like BT's dynamic line management software has increased your target noise margin from 6db to 9dm in an attempt to stabilise the line, but otherwise things look healthy.

I still believe the engineer. If you're getting frequent disconnections (which your previous profile implied) then either you have a problem on the line or with your internal wiring, and that's what we need to diagnose. Do you have the modern, NTE5 master socket, they type where the bottom part of the faceplate can be removed?
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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2009, 19:21 »
I have an ADSL box V 1.0 Rik.  When I remove the screws and pull the faceplate off, the BB becomes disconnected.  There is another plate behind and the lower part of that can be unscrewed but I have no idea what is behind that.

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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2009, 20:03 »
What I think Rik is looking for is a test socket, which may be behind the first plate you removed, Clive.  The idea is to connect the router direct to that socket, with an ADSL microfilter, to see if the connection speed improves.  This indicates whether the problem is within your internal wiring, or outside, as you are bypassing any internal wiring by connecting direct to the test socket.
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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2009, 22:55 »
The ADSL V1.0 box has an inbuilt filter and protects all extension sockets in the house.  When I remove the faceplate, there is no separate BB socket behind it.  I do have spare microfilters which could be used as you suggest but that may be putting 2 filters in the circuit. 

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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2009, 23:59 »
When you say there's no BB socket behind the faceplate, is there a telephone socket, to which you could attach a microfilter, and thus connect your router?  I'm not sure if filters can 'double up', as it were, but you may be better off hanging on for Rik to come back to us on this, as this box you have may be something completely different to what I'm thinking of, Clive.
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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2009, 09:42 »
Yes, there is a phone socket behind into which I could plug a filter.  I changed the BB cable today but that made no difference. 

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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2009, 11:42 »
I think that's what Rik will ask you to do, Clive, and then recheck your speed and router stats.
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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2009, 13:40 »
Ha!  They have done something at long last: (unless it's the new cable but that made no difference to begin with.) My guess is that this will be fine for 4 or 5 days and then drop back to 300K again. 


Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    Your DSL connection rate: 4224 kbps(DOWN-STREAM),  448 kbps(UP-STREAM)
    IP profile for your line is - 3500 kbps
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 3211 kbps


 

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Uptime: 0 days, 4:04:00
 
Modulation: G.992.1 annex A
 
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 4,224
 
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 5.90 / 49.01
 
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 19.0
 
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 25.0 / 41.0
 
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 24.0 / 16.0
 
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ALCB
 
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
 
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 107 / 0
 
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
 
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
 
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 828 / 0
 
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1,624
 
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 3
 
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 3
 
Line Profile: Interleaved
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2009, 13:57 »
I wonder if you have a bad connection somewhere?  Maybe that ADSL box is playing up?
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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2009, 09:19 »
Next time it goes I'll plug into the inside socket and see what happens. 

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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2009, 10:35 »
Your profile has improved, but your line stats are much worse, Clive - lower sync, higher noise margin. There's still a problem.
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Re: Google rolls out search changes
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2009, 11:08 »
But where is the problem likely to be Rik? 


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