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Offline GillE

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Our Drugs War
« on: August 01, 2010, 11:07 »
I'm looking forward to seeing Our Drugs War on Monday, C4 at 8pm.  Apparently Angus MacQueen has won awards for documentaries, so this looks very promising.
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 11:22 »
Looks like it might be interesting, Gill.
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2010, 12:04 »
If depressing.
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 13:39 »
Well, it's probably another war we'll never win.  :(
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 15:22 »
True. :(
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 15:44 »
I suspect it's another war we should never have even started, but I think we need a more open and better informed public debate on the subject.  Most people seem to think it's enough to say, "My neighbour's young lad was a lovely fellow until he started taking drugs.  Only a reckless fool would consider legalising them."

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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2010, 16:10 »
I personally feel legalize, tax and be done with it. Ok its not that simple, but it would overnight remove all the criminal gangs selling drugs...
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2010, 16:16 »
Sadly, though, to judge by the lessons of prohibition, they would simply move on to another area where they could make money, Sam.
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2010, 23:29 »
I'm firmly with Sam on this one.  The majority of criminal acts are perpetrated by addicts who are desperate for money to buy drugs.  Quite what we'd do about the subsequent increase in demand on NHS resources is another matter.  Another bonus is that the Taliban might suddenly find themselves having to work for a living.

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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 00:11 »
I'd like to see more informed discussion before really committing myself, but I have to say that the arguments in favour of legalisation that I've heard so far are overwhelming.
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2010, 00:22 »
I'd like to see impact assessments etc, you know things the government doesn't like producing properly - graphs.
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2010, 00:30 »
My worry is that if drugs were legalised, they would be easier to get hold of, therefore, more people would take them, and become addicted.  I know it's the difficulty of obtaining drugs which turns people to crime, but do we really want people wandering the streets like zombies, or presenting other extreme behaviours?
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2010, 00:35 »
well you could start small legalize cannabis and see what happens... I don't think people all walk around holland like that though - I expect it would be like alcohol for the people who take it - you go out and have a good time at the weekend but work hard in the week. Most of the drugs that could be legalised just aren't addictive. We don't seem to have a problem with people smoking...  "wandering the streets like zombies" comes to mind with that :-D
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2010, 00:51 »
Anything is addictive if you allow it to become so, but I take the point about starting small.  It will be interesting to see what class of drugs the programme talks about.
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Re: Our Drugs War
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2010, 01:12 »
That's not what has happened in Portugal, Simon.  Drug usage there has actually declined since a more liberal regime was introduced.
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