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Cooling
« on: November 04, 2002, 10:41 »
I'm back at it ;)

Here is a guide for beginners, looking into cooling their system. I haven't checked it all out yet, but its worth a look if you want to tinker with your CPU settings  ;D
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Re:Cooling
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2002, 16:39 »
Bat, I fell asleep reading all that stuff which was way over my head. I think a pail of water thrown at the machine will do me. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2002, 11:13 »
Ahhhh so you're into water cooling Lona ;) now then .... :o

Here's another comparison of coolers for Socket A processors ::) ;)
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Re:Cooling
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2002, 11:32 »
All I do when the poor old thing starts to smoke is open the window as this has a number of distinct advantages over many other methods.
First it lets the smoke out (you can then see what you are doing) second the blast of cold air from the open window is guaranteed to cool anything, and lastly its FREE.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re:Cooling
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2002, 16:26 »

I'm back at it ;)

Here is a guide for beginners, looking into cooling their system. I haven't checked it all out yet, but its worth a look if you want to tinker with your CPU settings  ;D


Bat, are you trying to turn me into a techy or was it the poker advert you sent me to. I could always turn into a gambler and join a gamblers anonymous forum ;D ;D ;D
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Re:Cooling
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2002, 17:19 »
Well Clive already thinks I'm trying to take over the world, so turning you into a techie might be something to try, which would be more difficult? ;)

Mustapha, you are soooo right ;)
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2002, 00:54 »
You can't teach an old dog new tricks Bat ;D ;D ;D
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Re:Cooling
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2002, 09:48 »
Don't tempt me, I seem to try anything these days :o :o ;)



This could just be the cooler for me, a review of the ThermalRight SK7  8) 8) 8)
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2002, 09:19 »
Naaa I opted for the Thermalright SLK 800 ;D

But here's a review of the Thermaltake Smart Fan 2 Go Here

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Re:Cooling
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2003, 23:34 »
Cop a load of this a 34 way alternatinve to the stock AMD cooler from Toms
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Re:Cooling
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2003, 00:03 »
Right Bat,

lets check running temps, right now all I'm running is this site and MS Outlook, on a AMD XP2000+ with a standared CPU heatsink and fan. Apart from the CPU fan and the PSU fan I also have a 8cm exhaust fan running.

{ I also have a input fan installed but not connected at this time ]

CPU temp 45 degrees  System temp 33 degrees
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Re:Cooling
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2003, 00:20 »
Hi Tony .... is this a challenge ;) :P

Okay, I have an 80mm intake fan running, 3x40mm intake fans running in a HD cooler bay, 2x 80mm exhaust fans, and 2x 80mm exhausting fans in the PSU. I have a Thermalright SLK 800 heatsink, lapped and using ArcticSilver 3 thermal paste, with a Thermaltake SmartFan 2 (thermal sensor attached to CPU core)

Readings : case temp 27deg and CPU 30deg  8)

Ohh and its an XP2400+ (2GHz) running at 2.2GHz with 1.65v core voltage

And I haven't finished overclocking it yet  >:D >:D >:D
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Re:Cooling
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2003, 11:39 »

Hi Tony .... is this a challenge ;) :P



No way bat was it a challenge, not likely with such a cool dude as yourself. I was just wanting to compare a nigh on accepted industry standard [what you would expect if you bought a home PC of the shelf] as against a oveclocking nutters setup  ;D ;)

See, anybody wanting to build their own PC for normal useage, on visiting this site for advice, could believe they need an expensive cooling set up like yours.

I mean it is horses for courses at the end of the day, if your not an overclocking nut then a £12 bog standard CPU fan and maybe an additional exhaust fan [on top of the PSU fan] at £5 is ample.

Your set up does work as one can see by the temp readings it achieves. And so it should when you consider you have the equivalent of 52cm of fan cooling against 16cm in my system, and a state of the art CPU cooling setup against a bog standard H/S&Fan. Go on make my eyes water, how much did all that cooling kit cost ?

I note my MSI motherboard has a CPU temp monitoring and cut-off safety feature. If enabled it switches of your system if the CPU reaches temperatures that may be considered to high for the health of the CPU. The settings start at 70 up to 95 degrees in 5 degree increments. So the assumption is that temps up to 70 degrees must be considered well within the CPU's working capabilities, as a 25 degree range up to 95 is still avaliable as a working range.

Anybody know what AMD reckon is the accepted or ideal working temp for XP CPU's in a home PC working under normal conditions.

So come on peeps [well those with the ability to record system temps] what are your systems running at [please state CPU make and size and forms of cooling]

I have just connected up that spare intake fan I have installed in the case, and the temps are CPU 41 degrees and System 30 degrees. Of course I do not know if the room temp is the same as it was last night when I took the first reading.


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Re:Cooling
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2003, 12:31 »
It is very likely that getting the extra cool air in your case can account for a few deg difference, especially if your PSU is pulling the hot air from just above your heatsink.

The case fans I'm using are just YS-Tech 80mm ones and only cost about £5, but I've chosen ones with good cu.f/m (cubic feet air per minute) and the other case fan is an Akasa LED one, coz it looks nice  :P

The Thermaltake SmartFan 2 costs £10 and the heatsink (which is supplied without fan) costs £45 and it took 2.5hrs to lap the heatsink base to a mirror finish with wet/dry

I wouldn't like my CPU to go over 80deg ... I'm not sure of the exact recommended highest temp (I think its 90deg ... but I will check that out). I have my thermal cut off set at 65deg at the moment while I'm starting to o/clock it, but I do keep a careful check on temps.

The ideal temp varies, as does the accuracy of the sensing. The new XP chips have thermal sensing built into the CPU core, and modern mobos have this activated to enable better sensing and auto control for overheating. Intel chips have this feature built into them, so I'd say they are safer than the AMDs and Pentiums run cooler too, although the new "thoroughbred" XPs (2400+ and above) do run cooler
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Re:Cooling
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2003, 12:40 »
AMD Athlon XP 1800 CPU

CPU Temp 45C
System Temp 36C

CPU Cooling fan: Arctic Cooler Super Silent 2000 - cost £25

Exhaust fan: Bog Standard Novatech - cost £8

That's OK, isn't it?
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