Topic: HELP!! p.c games arn't working !

[Sandra]

Try the XP cd Daz as it should have them on there.
It will try to auto run when you insert it so just exit it when the box opens up and then click ok on the add hardware bit :doggie:

[carnaging]

ok, i have just tried it with the XP disk, but after searching, it says : "the hardware could not be installed becouse the wizard cannot find the necesorery hardware" by the way thanks for all this help!

[Sandra]

Thats ok Daz we wont give up yet.
I assume that its a via chiset if its looking for drivers for it so download and install the latest VIA 4 in 1 drivers from here and install them :

http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=300

You want this one Daz :

VIA Hyperion 4in1 v4.49, released 20 August 2003
VIA Download choices HTTP Download
 FTP Download
The Driver VIAHyperion4in1v4.49.zip

[carnaging]

ok thanks, im downloading now, i'll let ya know how it gets on  

[Sandra]

Fingers crossed that should sort it hopefully.
After you install and reboot look in Device Manager again and see if it has put Display Adaptor in the list :doggie:

[carnaging]

ok, there is still no display adapter in the list,the games install, but they run incredibely slow, like really, really slow, not playable at all what should i do next?

[Sandra]

Are you ok going inside your pc Daz?
The easiest way is going to be to remove the graphics card,restart pc without it in then shut it down again after a few minutes.
Replace the card and see if it detects it when rebooting again.
If you cant do that try the Add new hardware scan again and see if you get the same or another message :doggie:

[carnaging]

i have allready tried the add hardware, just got the same, something some where said something about a graphics accelerator ? anyway looks like i'll have to remove my video card and do what you said, as much as i don't want to.

[Sandra]

I think that we may have found it Daz without needing to take the card out possibly  

SYMPTOMS
After you install Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1), IDE ATA-133 (Ultra DMA Mode 6) devices on motherboards that use VIA Technologies chipsets are not enabled. This occurs although Windows XP SP1 supports Ultra DMA Mode 6.
CAUSE
When you install Windows XP SP1, devices on your computer are not reinstalled in the process. The Ultra DMA Mode 6 devices were not supported before you installed Windows XP SP1.

Try this :

To resolve this issue, update the driver for the IDE controllers in Device Manager. To do this, follow these steps:
Right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
Click the Hardware tab, and then click Device Manager.
Expand IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers.
Double-click Primary IDE channel, and then click the Driver tab.
Click Update Driver.
Click Install the software automatically, and then follow the on-screen instructions to complete the process.

The full article is here :

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327805

[Sandra]

Can anyone explain why incorrect IDE drivers would cause XP not to detect the display adaptor or are we loking at two seperate problems here  

[carnaging]

ok, i'll try that now, i don't know where i would be with out you sandra!

[Sandra]

I found this article as well but I hope that this isnt your problem Daz as it looks like Uncle Bill needs money for this fix  

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813861

[Simon]

Just a thought, Sandra, but isn't this the same problem Reanne had a couple of weeks ago?  I thought in the end the Add Hardware Wizard sorted it, although I know Daz has already tried that.  

[carnaging]

i did what the first one said, all looked promising! but it never worked, it just says "the wizard could not find a better match for your hardware than the software you currentely have installed" :'(

I have to go offline now, i'll be back on shortly.

[Sandra]

The problem is Simon that its installed a standard monitor and adaptor somehow but not correctly as its not showing as being identified in the Device Manager,or as having a fault.
Whether this is due to the IDE driver problem I honestly havent a clue but its beginning to look like a bad re installation of XP,unless it requires the "Fix" that I mentioned in my last post.
I must admit to getting to point where I cant think of what to suggest next as I am unsure whether we have two problems,(or even more),or if one is causing the other.
If it hasnt identified the display adaptor,card or monitor correctly I cant see how its giving anything other than a low screen resolution or more than 16 colours so the display would be terrible to look at but Daz hasnt mentioned that at all